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Trump hasnt done anything to protect our guns
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:26 pm
He says hes pro the second amendment but what has he done to secure our rights? We need to do something now before the democrats get back in power.
1. Start by making an executive order no confiscating of any kind without a due process or a criminal act.
2. Any person without a felony can buy and own any fire arm they want including machine guns.
3. No warrantless back ground checks. If they want to do a back ground check it must be from a judge.
1. Start by making an executive order no confiscating of any kind without a due process or a criminal act.
2. Any person without a felony can buy and own any fire arm they want including machine guns.
3. No warrantless back ground checks. If they want to do a back ground check it must be from a judge.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:27 pm to Mud_Till_May
Obama did more for the 2nd amendment that Trump. Fact.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:27 pm to Mud_Till_May
What would you like him to do?
State the 2nd Amendment is really for realz, y'all.
State the 2nd Amendment is really for realz, y'all.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:27 pm to Mud_Till_May
What do you suggest he do?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:29 pm to Mud_Till_May
2 SC judges
a shitload of other judges
a shitload of other judges
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:29 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
What do you suggest he do?
Not promote their talking points and set precedents like he did with bump stocks.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:29 pm to Mud_Till_May
What can he do? Every executive order is overturned by fricknutz corrupt judges, we fricked up and let the Bolsheviks take the house back, he’s fighting the goddamn FBI, CIA, Deep State, military industrial complex etc...
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:29 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
What do you suggest he do?
Unban bump stocks
Then machine guns
Seriously, do it
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:29 pm to Mud_Till_May
He can’t make 2A, a 2B
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:31 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:
Obama did more for the 2nd amendment that Trump. Fact.
Sure, those bitches on the supreme court are great for the 2nd amendment I am sure.
Just say anything
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:32 pm to TigerBait1971
1. Start by making an executive order no confiscating of any kind without a due process or a criminal act.
2. Any person without a felony can buy and own any fire arm they want including machine guns.
3. No warrantless back ground checks. If they want to do a back ground check it must be from a judge.
2. Any person without a felony can buy and own any fire arm they want including machine guns.
3. No warrantless back ground checks. If they want to do a back ground check it must be from a judge.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:33 pm to Eli Goldfinger
He has a nasty habit of keeping gun control in the spotlight whenever some spook or crazy loner decides to go shoot up a school or a Wal-Mart or whatever. Most Republicans, even the cucked establishment phonies, have enough sense to quit talking about stupid shite like banning bump stocks or enhancing background checks when the pearl-clutching slampigs are having their weekly temper tantrum and let the news cycle churn on. Trump finds a way to keep shootings in the news for weeks because he keeps giving lip service to gun control that he doesn't have to give.
I say all this as a Trump guy who will be happily voting him in again, but I'm fully convinced he is a classic New York City guy on this issue. He doesn't "get it" the way politicians from outside the coasts do.
I say all this as a Trump guy who will be happily voting him in again, but I'm fully convinced he is a classic New York City guy on this issue. He doesn't "get it" the way politicians from outside the coasts do.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:33 pm to Mud_Till_May
quote:
Trump hasnt done anything to protect our guns
He was never going to do anything. He showed that before he was even nominated. His supporters didn't care then, and they won't care now.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:34 pm to Strannix
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What can he do? Every executive order is overturned by fricknutz corrupt judges
Lead the effort to ignore them. Our system where some moron in a robe can overturn the will of the people is NOT of the constitution.
He could once and for all put the judiciary, the KRITARCHY, back in the box. It’s high time the executive leads the effort to straight up ignore unconstitutional judicial rulings. He has 65+ MILLION people at his disposal. Mostly in the heartland where real power is held.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:35 pm to Carl Tuckerson
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He has a nasty habit of keeping gun control in the spotlight whenever some spook or crazy loner decides to go shoot up a school or a Wal-Mart or whatever.
Disagree. Gun control comes into the spotlight at those times automatically, a lot of extreme gun control talk. I think he does a good job of managing it.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:35 pm to Strannix
Also, this:
is BS, sorry.
Fight fire with fire.
If judges keep issuing injunctions on executive orders, keep fricking issuing them. It takes less time to issue an order than it does to enjoin it, and the injunctions are blatantly unconstitutional and won't stand up to proper judicial review anyway. We've seen this time and again. Just issue the shite again.
quote:
What can he do? Every executive order is overturned by fricknutz corrupt judges, we fricked up and let the Bolsheviks take the house back, he’s fighting the goddamn FBI, CIA, Deep State, military industrial complex etc...
is BS, sorry.
Fight fire with fire.
If judges keep issuing injunctions on executive orders, keep fricking issuing them. It takes less time to issue an order than it does to enjoin it, and the injunctions are blatantly unconstitutional and won't stand up to proper judicial review anyway. We've seen this time and again. Just issue the shite again.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:35 pm to Mud_Till_May
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Any person without a felony can buy and own any fire arm they want including machine guns
I disagree. If they are a non violent felon and have served their time, they should be able to protect themselves. If they can vote, they can own a firearm.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:36 pm to Panama Orange
Obama rolled back Reagan's policy that didn't allow people to carry guns in national parks and rolled back a GWB policy that didn't allow Amtrak passengers to carry guns.
Trump banned bump stocks.
Trump banned bump stocks.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:37 pm to Mud_Till_May
quote:
He says hes pro the second amendment but what has he done to secure our rights? We need to do something now before the democrats get back in power.
3. No warrantless back ground checks. If they want to do a back ground check it must be from a judge.
Is this an The Onion post?
You think that every background check should require a court order?
What is your argument for why a law cannot require a gun purchaser to submit to a background check?
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:38 pm to davyjones
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Disagree. Gun control comes into the spotlight at those times automatically, a lot of extreme gun control talk. I think he does a good job of managing it.
I'm not saying it doesn't come up at all, but when you say shite like "Go for the guns first, due process second," when you sign a bump stock ban into law and when you keep paying lip service to stronger background checks, that encourages the left to keep talking about it, when even some cuck like Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney would have just given some "thoughts and prayers" tier hand wave and gone about real business and let it die out in a week. Trump gives them hope that something will be done, and I wouldn't mind it if he hadn't actually signed a bump stock ban into law, but stuff like this makes me think he doesn't always have a handle on how he steers the narrative. We know he's damn good at it so how come gun control lingers in the discussion when he's so good at pushing the narrative where he wants it, y'know?
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