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Trump administration will move to block 'birth tourism'
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:22 pm
quote:LINK
The State Department took the lead on the initiative, though visa protocols are administered by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services at the Department of Homeland Security, according to Axios, which reported the news on Sunday. The administration has not decided how to go about blocking citizenship to this class of newborns, but it has looked at giving the State Department the ability to deny visitor visas to people on short-term business, as well as tourism visas to women it believes may be trying to give birth in the U.S.
It's not clear if the State Department would attempt to determine if a woman was pregnant or not at the time of submitting a visa application or at the time of travel or how many people would be affected.
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:24 pm to Northwestern tiger
Good
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:24 pm to Northwestern tiger
He cant keep getting away with this xenophobia
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:24 pm to Northwestern tiger
Birthright citizenship is one of the most absolutely retarded and harmful policies that we have.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:33 pm to Northwestern tiger
Big mistake we need as many Asians as we can get .
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:41 pm to HempHead
quote:could not agree more. It’s asinine to think that someone should be able to walk across the border, pop out a kid and that kid be a citizen
Birthright citizenship is one of the most absolutely retarded and harmful policies that we have.
I would support anyone that would overturn that (won’t happen sadly)
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:44 pm to Northwestern tiger
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:45 pm to Northwestern tiger
Thank god
This ought to rustle some jimmies though
This ought to rustle some jimmies though
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:49 pm to Northwestern tiger
How can a baby born to tourists visiting the United States be considered "citizens of the United States?" The 14th Amendment doesn't apply here, and any judge who rules otherwise should be removed from the bench! The same goes for illegal border jumpers.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:53 pm to Northwestern tiger
Look at the one libbie who DV'ed the OP.
Love to see someone try and criticize this move.
Love to see someone try and criticize this move.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:54 pm to Northwestern tiger
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This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 8:06 am
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:54 pm to Northwestern tiger
Good
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:01 pm to Northwestern tiger
long overdue
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:03 pm to HempHead
quote:Agreed. Unfortunately, the 14th is clear and unambiguous, and the votes will never exist to revise the necessary language. We are stuck with it.
Birthright citizenship is one of the most absolutely retarded and harmful policies that we have.
As to the OP I just wonder what the policy will be. Some woman with a valid visa gets off the plane, 8 months pregnant. What do they do? Throw her back on the plane? Arrest her and fly her home against her will? Do we only issue visas to women a month or two before travel and only for stays f less than nine months? Do we hire a medical staff for each of our embassies and consulates and administer pregnancy tests before issuing a visa to any female? Do we post a government hall monitor at the departure gate for every flight bound for the US?
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:07 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:The plain language says what it says, without ambiguity, the rules of construction do not allow a judge to even INQUIRE into things like legislative history or original intent.
How can a baby born to tourists visiting the United States be considered "citizens of the United States?" The 14th Amendment doesn't apply here, and any judge who rules otherwise should be removed from the bench! The same goes for illegal border jumpers.
Sometimes Textualism works in favor of one’s policy preferences, and sometimes it does not. This is the latter instance.
Unless you want a judge who is willing to ignore the law in order to reach the result that you want. That is a bad path to tread.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:08 pm to AggieHank86
quote:wrong. it is completely misinterpreted. It was meant for slaves, not mexicans.
the 14th is clear and unambiguous
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:13 pm to arcalades
quote:Clearly the intent. I do not remotely contest that assertion, and I have said in this thread that birthright citizenship is bad policy.quote:wrong. it is completely misinterpreted. It was meant for slaves.....
the 14th is clear and unambiguous
But none of that changes the rules of construction. You follow them, or you are a judicial activist just like the Dems ... just one willing to ignore the rules for a different cause.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:15 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:
It's not clear if the State Department would attempt to determine if a woman was pregnant or not at the time of submitting a visa application or at the time of travel or how many people would be affected.
They're doing pregnancy tests in some cases.
LINK
ETA: it was the airline that had her take it after concerns were raised from immigration officials
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:35 pm to Northwestern tiger
Good. What liberals won’t tell you is that these babies are born with loaded guns in their hands and narcotics to sell on the street.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:38 pm to AggieHank86
quote:If that were true, birth tourism would have NEVER been a thing. But Birth Tourism IS A THING. So there certainly is ambiguity.
The plain language says what it says, without ambiguity
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