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Trey Gowdy transcript from today... No edits to twist it

Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:13 pm
On Sunday, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) appeared on CBS’ "Face the Nation" with host Margaret Brennan, and made a damning claim: the FISA warrant wouldn’t have been granted without the Steele dossier.



BRENNAN: We should dig into this because you are, from my understanding, the only Republican investigator on the House Intelligence Committee who actually viewed the FISA applications. Everything that went into essentially putting together this memo. So, when you're talking about this Steele memo, you are not saying that it was the sole piece of evidence used to justify these four authorizations of the surveillance warrant, are you?

GOWDY: No. It was not the exclusive information relied upon by the FISA court.

BRENNAN: Would it have been authorized were it not for that dossier?

GOWDY: No, it would not have been.

BRENNAN: How can you say that because it was authorized four times by separate judges?

GOWDY: Right, and the information was in there all four times. And the judge doesn't do independent research. There are three Republicans that have seen every bit of information — three of us. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA), the Chairman of the Judiciary, Johnny Ratcliffe (R-TX), who was a former terrorism prosecutor and a U.S. attorney in Texas, and me.

All three of us have total confidence in the FBI and DOJ to be able to do the jobs that they have been assigned; we have confidence in Bob Mueller; and we have serious concerns about this process. So, we have all three of those things in common, including being concerned about what happened in 2016.

BRENNAN: Should all the information in the FISA applications be publicly disclosed, declassified, so that people can make their own judgment and see what you've seen?

GOWDY: I think — I'm gonna defer a little bit to the Bureau and the DOJ on — it's a long application. If there are sources and methods that are not already known, that they think would jeopardize national security, I would defer to their judgment. The source that we revealed, Chris Steele, was about the least well-kept secret in America. So, generally, I err on the side of transparency and disclosure. On the other hand, there's a reason that this process is usually confidential, and I don't want to set the precedent of all FISA applications being publicly seen.



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This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 5:13 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15345 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:20 pm to
Consistent with everything we've heard.

No dossier, no FISA approval.

So everyone involved in submitting the FISA application including is complicit in the deliberate falsification of data to the court.

The only question left at this point is the degree to which each may be guilty.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26614 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:42 pm to
STILL, can someone, anyone, explain why a dossier on TRUMP was necessary to get a warrant to spy on Carter Page?
Posted by Humanelement
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
1366 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:58 pm to
The Carter Paige bull shite is nothing more than subterfuge by the Democratic Party . The FBI was servailing CarteR Paige back in 2013. The Dossier was used to secure a FISA warranty to spy on Donald Trump and his a campaign during a presidential election. All this bull shite from the Dems about FISA and Carter Paige is simply to through people off. Just some more cock gobbling, lying demagoging prog bullshite
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21855 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

STILL, can someone, anyone, explain why a dossier on TRUMP was necessary to get a warrant to spy on Carter Page?


Regardless of how shady Page has been made out to be due to previous activities in his past, It needs to be pointed out that Carter Page has not been charged with anything!

You can bet if they had anything on him he would be facing charges.
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2664 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:06 pm to
They had to tie it to trump to get the warrant. The information they had before was not enough to get and approved FISA but if you show that the president might be open to being influenced.

It was really sneaky what they did. Going after someone low let them cast a huge net to catch everyone else. No judge in there right mind would have approved it if they tried to get a FISA on a presidential candidate.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14164 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:14 pm to
No Republican who has seen the warrant will come out and say what part or parts of the dossier was made a part of the warrant. Until they do, all of this is gibberish.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22770 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

They had to tie it to trump to get the warrant. The information they had before was not enough to get and approved FISA but if you show that the president might be open to being influenced.

It was really sneaky what they did. Going after someone low let them cast a huge net to catch everyone else. No judge in there right mind would have approved it if they tried to get a FISA on a presidential candidate.
quote:

They had to tie it to trump to get the warrant. The information they had before was not enough to get and approved FISA but if you show that the president might be open to being influenced.

It was really sneaky what they did. Going after someone low let them cast a huge net to catch everyone else. No judge in there right mind would have approved it if they tried to get a FISA on a presidential candidate.


Yes they would have. They are sane just corrupt.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:15 pm to
It's like classifications mean nothing to you Dianne.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16707 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

No Republican who has seen the warrant will come out and say what part or parts of the dossier was made a part of the warrant. Until they do, all of this is gibberish


Until someone is in handcuffs, all of this is gibberish.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18001 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

No dossier, no FISA approval.


^^^^^
This

Dem and MSM talking point is ....dossier was only part of info.
But they continue to neglect to say that without the dossier there would be no warrant.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 6:43 pm
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:41 pm to
de-class everything
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:41 pm to
You want them to reveal to the public information on a still classified document?

What do you think they are, democrats?
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 7:09 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

But they continue to neglect to say that without the dossier there would be no warrant.


Which is astounding considering that FISA court is basically a rubber stamp.
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Dem and MSM talking point is ....dossier was only part of info.


If it was more than 0%, then their argument is useless. We already know the answer.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

GOWDY: I think — I'm gonna defer a little bit to the Bureau and the DOJ on — it's a long application. If there are sources and methods that are not already known, that they think would jeopardize national security, I would defer to their judgment. The source that we revealed, Chris Steele, was about the least well-kept secret in America. So, generally, I err on the side of transparency and disclosure. On the other hand, there's a reason that this process is usually confidential, and I don't want to set the precedent of all FISA applications being publicly seen. 



Gowdy is and always will be a cuck in shepards clothing.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24649 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:13 pm to
I know a lot of people are pissed at Gowdy as of late, but I sure am going to miss him. I don't blame him for wanting to go back to criminal justice after festering in the swamp for so long. But his background and what he brings to Washington, that's what I'll miss. He's been on the right side of the judicial system for so long that nobody can pull the wool over his eyes. Not even seasoned, lying politicians and other individuals in the same justice system.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27858 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

All three of us have total confidence in the FBI and DOJ to be able to do the jobs that they have been assigned

which translates to the blame being shifted to the individuals involved

Comey - fired
McCabe - resigned
Ohr - demoted
Srtrzok - demoted
Page - demoted
Comey aide - resigned
Comey chief of staff - resigned
FISA judge - recused

Rosenstein? (seems like hes the only one left)

And with all those gone, do we get a SC on Hillary, that eventually links to Obama?
Posted by muttenstein
Member since Oct 2012
2550 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

Dem and MSM talking point is ....dossier was only part of info.
But they continue to neglect to say that without the dossier there would be no warrant.


Yep.

Breaking news tonight on CNN...

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23643 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:34 pm to
So is Gowdy good or bad?
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