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Trafalgar has Trump up 3 in NC

Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:29 am
Posted by Clemsontigers02
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:29 am
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:30 am to
Its over then, congrats fellas
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21302 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:31 am to
Read this as NY and almost shite myself.
Posted by Caymus
Houston
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:31 am to
Poll conducted before the debate as well
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:32 am to
This seems a tad high, but I do think undecideds/independents will break from Trump all over the map, so a 3-point win for Trump might end up being exactly right.
Posted by rstamp1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1121 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:32 am to
It will come down to Pennsylvania. If Trump wins Pennsylvania it will be a landslide. If not things may get tense.
Posted by Clemsontigers02
Member since Sep 2020
743 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:32 am to
Would love to see what they have for Tillis and Forest. In this political environment I don’t see how either Trump or Biden win the state and the Senate candidate doesn’t also win. Apparently Forest (rubbing against Cooper for Gov) is seen as a little crazy which might hurt him with independents, but at the same time Cooper shutting down the state doesn’t seem like a popular decision.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19779 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:32 am to
Great news
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23108 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:32 am to
Predictit flipped to red for trump yesterday.

Zona is 55 corrupt pos

The Midwest targets mid to low 60s
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48805 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:32 am to
Trump wins NC by 4-5
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:33 am to
MAGA
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:33 am to
Nate was trashing Trafalgar this morning on Twitter.
Basically saying it’s not a trustworthy poll when you can consistently predict their results before they are released.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48805 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Nate was trashing Trafalgar this morning on Twitter.
Basically saying it’s not a trustworthy poll when you can consistently predict their results before they are released.


So the only accurate poll from 2016 isn't trustworthy.......
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Basically saying it’s not a trustworthy poll when you can consistently predict their results before they are released.

I bet the next mainstream polls in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin will have Biden ahead by 6-7 points each.

See what I did there, Nate?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54196 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Basically saying it’s not a trustworthy poll


Neither is Nate's interpretation of polls. He got his arse handed to him four years ago.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72354 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:36 am to
i expect to hold all states won last time and flip NV, NH and hopefully Minny. not expecting anything out of CO, NM or VA. if we do great tho.

all we need technically other than states we won last time is 1 outta WI, MI and PA. we got this.

just keep treating it as if we are down and everybody get out and vote! we may have states flip we never imagined.



the hispanic vote will be higher than last time and the black vote will be the death knell for dems which makes us RETAIN THE BELT FOR 4 MORE YEARS!

Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:37 am to
Trafalgar was so off in 2018, because they didn't properly gauge turnout. Trump's name wasn't on the ballot. Mid-term elections normally favor the party not occupying the White House. They did a shite job.


However, as you said, they were great in 2016. This is another presidential year. I would trust Trafalgar more than most polls, at this point.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31724 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Nate was trashing Trafalgar this morning on Twitter.
Basically saying it’s not a trustworthy poll when you can consistently predict their results before they are released.




Nate has a personal vendetta against trafalgar. He rates them C-. They have a higher % race predicted with a lower or equivalent margin of error compared to pollsters he rates in the A range.

I think it bothers him that they were an outlier to themselves calling the rust belt for trump and they are doing it again.

Nate doesnt know how to process outliers.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:46 am
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23108 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Trafalgar was so off in 2018, because they didn't properly gauge turnout. Trump's name wasn't on the ballot. Mid-term elections normally favor the party not occupying the White House. They did a shite job.


However, as you said, they were great in 2016. This is another presidential year. I would trust Trafalgar more than most polls, at this point.


They had a completely new model and polling methodology and it was their first midterm.

We’ll see if they do better in 2016
Posted by DellTronJon
Member since Feb 2010
1270 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:53 am to
In my area of WNC, if we were to judge based on signs, Trump is well in the lead. A majority of Biden signs you see are on public property with exception of the homes in the downtown areas, where most of the residents are relocated democrats. I would say 90% of the Trump signs are on private property.
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