To hold those responsible accountable

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If AG Barr is to hold anyone accountable, especially the more well known, Trump will have to win re-election in 2020. Otherwise, these characters will simply pull all the delaying tactics they have to wait out Trump’s term and get a Democratic administration that will promptly sweep everything under a rug and forget about it. I truly hope Trump can win in 2020.

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I understand but I suspect the wheels are turning now such that the bad actors will be charged before the end of his 1st term.

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I suspect the wheels are turning now such that the bad actors will be charged before the end of his 1st term.

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I suspect this as well. I see Trump getting re-elected because the Democrats cannot just not be insane and all of their candidates are lunatics. That said, even if somehow miraculously some nightmare occurs like Beto getting elected there’s no way in hell he’s going to be able to stop a prosecution once’s these people are publicly indicted.

Obama and Hillary have chosen their candidates. Their new POTUS that they are trying to control, so they can be POTUS themselves by proxy and take the other one out. But if both of them are indicted and facing criminal prosecution it’s hard to see how they stop it. . . Especially if Barr truly does clean house in addition to indicting people.

Bernie is Bernie. He can’t even sponsor legislation as s Senator. How on earth would he stop a criminal trial of a train that’s left the station?

that’s the question isn’t it. What won’t these people do to make sure trump does not win? Dangerous times ahead.

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BOOM... Amen Brother! Well said, so have an upvote.

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Why didn't we start indicting Leftist traitors earlier and avoid giving away the House in the Mid-terms?

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You are on track here. I agree part of the left's plan was to muddy the water with these allegations and slow roll the investigation first through the mid terms with the hope of dragging the whole thing out through 2020. The first part worked. The second part not so much. They are going down man!

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You are on track here. I agree part of the left's plan was to muddy the water with these allegations and slow roll the investigation first through the mid terms with the hope of dragging the whole thing out through 2020. The first part worked. The second part not so much. They are going down man!

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Meh. The midterms were just like most midterm elections when the President's party is in power in congress. The voters whose party is in power get a bit complacent, while the other side is passionate about the midterms.

Besides, both the popular vote margin and the margin of house seats was too large to attribute to that alone, especially since localized elections for specific candidates have far more variables and considerations than the president who isn't up for election, let alone one specific aspect of his presidency.

And if this was the case, then why didn't it somehow have an impact on the senate elections? The House was always going to have a good chance of gaining D control with any R in power. But the specific elections for the Senate were more favorable to Rs, but not favorable enough that it was a certain victory. Yet, just like the House elections, the Senate elections ended up about as expected (some individual surprises both ways), which was good for the Rs.

Bc we had to "let the investigation run it's course."

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Senate elections were closer the they should have been.

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538's predictions gave a 17.9% chance of not changes (which happened), the highest probability. In addition, they had it as a 50.1% chance that +/- 1 seat either way (including no change), with Rs having a 48% chance of a net gain and Ds having about a 34% chance.

There were some surprises in individual races, both ways though, but the net total was as expected.

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In my mind it had an impact on the mid terms with the constant negative droning about Trump.

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I'm not discounting that it didn't have SOME impact (some close races), just not enough to account for that large net difference.

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And you can see the democrats are going to carry on with the narrative of collusion/obstruction/taxes whatever to energize their base. Normal rational people would accept the Mueller exoneration.

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Sure. And many are still calling for investigations into any number of Ds out of office (or not voted in). Even when Trump's own administration said Obama didn't wiretap TRUMP himself, people argued that otherwise, even though it was based on Trump's misinterpretation of a New York Times article from weeks before.

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Normal rational people would accept the Mueller exoneration.

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And I think many will. But many of those normal people are also going to want to see exactly what the report says before declaring everything a complete "exoneration," which is a lot different than just saying "he probably didn't do anything illegal that was alleged in regards to the investigation."

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But there will be well known players in this charade who will be indicted because the Trump DOJ now carries the big hammer.

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Maybe there will be. I have no doubt there is, and always has been, people who have done illegal things behind the scenes. But many of those who people have accused of such things, haven't really been shown to have done something criminal (maybe shady though), kind of like the accusation against Trump.

And I suspect, many of those who could be indicted, aren't the ones who who have been accused. I guess we'll see.

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In fact these investigations are being confirmed in the press tonight.

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That's a start. And there seems to be enough smoke, to look into it. And at the very least, whether anything criminal has happened or not, there are probably a number of people who have done enough to warrant a termination of their employment.

And if people were paying attention during the Mueller investigation, most of what was accused, was not from anything from the DOJ/Mueller team, not even places like the NYT's and WaPo.

Other than investigating the circumstances surround Comey's firing, nothing reputable that specifically implicated Trump as a target of the investigation was reported or released. Yet, before that even happened both sides were saying he was under investigation. One side said it was because he was a criminal, the other side said it was just a witch hunt. Neither really meshed with reality.