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Thoughts on the recent gigantic drug busts and the border.

Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:07 pm
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:07 pm
The largest bust in history just happened in Philadelphia worth $1.3 billion.

The submarine assault that is now viral netted a ton (not figurative) of coke.

Perchance has the Orange Man put pressure on the border to the point that the Cartels are off their game and failing while trying alternatives?

This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:07 pm to
Thoughts: Not surprised.

Future: More of the same until the swamp is drained.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:12 pm to
They also had a bust at the boarder crossing entrance.

Maybe they are getting better at detecting and finding these pricks.

I hope so.
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
12491 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

The largest bust in history just happened in Philadelphia worth $1.3 billion.


And that is just a drop in the bucket. Heard a stat the other night that our efforts only interdict about 15% of the drugs coming into this country.
Posted by MoLiberty
Member since Aug 2018
780 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:17 pm to
AOC: “we must abolish drug interdiction and stop separating drugs from the addicted”
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7257 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:18 pm to
Until we start drone bombing and sending rangers in to kill cartel members, this will continue. We should use the Rangers to completely destroy the cartels.
We should completely make pot legal and make it illegal to drug test and fire a person for smoking pot at home on their own time, no matter what their job.
Those two things would do wonders for cartel induced crime. If we find a country is complacent in the drug trade, take out their leader’s possessions. If we drone the governor that allows the cartels safe places to make their product’s home, it would stop.
Posted by Hickok
Htown
Member since Jan 2013
2858 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

Future: More of the same until the swamp is drained.

The entire house of reps, the Supreme Court, the 3 letter agencies, and all lobbyist could walk out of D.C. tomorrow and there will still be a demand for coke. It's basic supply and demand, if the demand is there the supply will come one way or the other, not that I feel one way or the other about it but it's a fact of life.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:21 pm to
I understand supply and demand.

But legislators that vote and pass laws and funds to curtail it are for sale. Simple.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

Cartels are off their game and failing while trying alternatives?


The opposite in fact.

The border invasion has taken resources away from stopping drugs and diverted them to babysitting (the term a BP agent used with me the other day).

Every inland checkpoint in the El Paso sector has been closed for months, meaning as soon as they get across the border they have a free pass to transport anywhere in the interior. The agents and K9s that manned these checkpoints are now handing out water at the border.

Agents whose normal detail is to track smugglers entering the country are doing the same.

Things have never been easier for the cartels, which is why they are helping to get the Central American illegals through Mexico and to the crossing point of their (the cartels) choice.

Drugs have always been smuggled through subs and shipping containers, that is nothing new.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35948 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:16 pm to
Cartels need to step that evasion game up. Tired of the stepped on dog shite outchea.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59532 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

The largest bust in history just happened in Philadelphia worth $1.3 billion.


I've begun thinking drug bust values should be quoted in Miles of Wall.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12168 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:19 pm to
That's just 2 bust. Imagine how much coke got in that we didn't find.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

We should completely make pot legal and make it illegal to drug test and fire a person for smoking pot at home on their own time, no matter what their job.
I’m an airline pilot, you sure you wanna go down this road?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16949 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

I’m an airline pilot, you sure you wanna go down this road?

I'm game. JR Smith played a whole finals series high. Scored 30 points one game.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13290 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 5:36 am to
quote:

And that is just a drop in the bucket. Heard a stat the other night that our efforts only interdict about 15% of the drugs coming into this country.


I believe you Bigfoot. I lived in Florida during the cocaine cowboys/miami vice/cuban boatlift era.They had a documentary then and the DEA said less than 10%. But he had a good point, where is the line between stricter enforcement and freedom. Do you want to take your boat out and every time we stop your afternoon sail to board your boat with dogs??

And at the border. The cartel tells us when and plate number of a mule for a particular agent to pull over a car and make a bust. Mule has bucks already placed in his bank account before he is busted. No priors, spends a few years in fed prison, gets in shape, gets his GED, learns english, comes home a wealthy man.

The agent at the border, he is now golden because he is busting people and he lets the cartels know what lane he is working when and the REAL loads come through and he is a very rich man.

Drugs have no real value til they make it to the market, and there is plenty of supply to make it to the market, these busts are just a cost of doing business, but they do make great headlines.

I highly doubt the cost of cocaine on the street even increased after these "massive" busts, whats that tell you about the ole supply and demand curves?

Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4818 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 7:03 am to
This has been expected for awhile now. It is known that more acres of cocoa have been planted in the recent past.

I think the increased supply, combined with a cooling global economy with more political instability will mean more overseas customs agents taking bribes.

Basically, the layers of defense are breaking down, and we can expect more large busts on US borders and more supply to slip through.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 7:18 am to
The demand for cocaine is kind of crazy.
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7257 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:50 am to
quote:

I’m an airline pilot, you sure you wanna go down this road

If you are at home on a Saturday night, during your weekend off, and smoke a joint, how does that have any impact on your ability to fly Monday morning?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61111 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:54 am to
quote:

And that is just a drop in the bucket. Heard a stat the other night that our efforts only interdict about 15% of the drugs coming into this country.



I heard they only intercept 11% of submarines transporting drugs.
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