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re: Thoughts on strikes from a Trump Dove - Update

Posted on 6/22/25 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477356 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 12:21 pm to
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and you can't even see what this shows you to be at heart.

Intellectually consistent with actual principles and independent analytical ability
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20144 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 12:56 pm to
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As if McCain and Bolton weren't used as symbols of the neocon philosophy and became pariahs within MAGA with that symbolism


So you’re comparing one strike against Irans nuclear weapons capability to Bolton and McCain constantly sabre rattling against every country from Russia down and constantly hawking for regime changes? After repeated efforts by Trump for peace with all of these countries over his two terms?

I’m sure you’ve been waiting to be oh so clever with the McCain Bolton comparison but you might have wanted to hold off on that one for a little while sport. Very try hard.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65594 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 2:16 pm to
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You forgot one.



2025. We crushed them
Because Trump is Israel's bitch. For 'greater Israel.' If you buy the eminent nuke sales pitch, you're just stupid.
Posted by CSinLC
Member since May 2018
2419 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 2:34 pm to
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1-I didn’t want to get involved. And if it were me making the call- we wouldn’t have.

2-I voted for Trump bc I do trust him to make the right call. I always knew he didn’t want Iran to have a nuke. He made this no secret. So I’m not going to criticize. I’m just going to wait and see.

3- I did not vote for Netanyahu..


Agree with this

ETA - I couldn't listen to more than about 15 seconds of that video
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 2:35 pm
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10382 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:05 pm to
So no. Just say, no, then.

Don’t be a poosey about it
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19598 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:10 pm to
And you have seen such evidence? Please, provide us the link.

Otherwise, please return jerking your tiny micropeen and









STFU.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2957 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:12 pm to
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portion of Trump's support comes from people who hate Bush/Cheney, John McCain, John Bolton, and Lindsey Graham.


A very small portion that is over represented on this board. The majority of his support comes from people who actually dislike Democrats.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477356 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:14 pm to
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The majority of his support comes from people who actually dislike Democrats.


Rudderless group without any genuine personal policy stances who just follow the trends/group

Pure in/out group dynamics fueled by partisan brain rot and sheep behavior
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6886 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 3:16 pm to
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Trump did the best thing possible last term when he shut off their oil exports and crippled their economy but Sleepy Joe had to reverse everything be damned the consequences. This is just more Democratic shite Trump has to clean up


There have been so many different deals, sanctions, and embargo’s that it is hard to keep track of. Many of the sanctions and embargo's that were/are already in place are the same but worded different for political reasons. The main Iranian deal was an UN embargo that started in October 2015 and ended in October 2020. When the embargo was lifted Iran was able to import and export military equipment. In 2024 Iran was blacklisted and put on a Financial Action Task Force(FATF) for violating UN protocols and sanctions.

Most of the sanctions if not all have had waivers for oil.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17304 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:24 pm to
Bumping this thread from Sunday bc I want to express my thanks to God for reminding me that my own eyes weren’t lying to me, I made the the right decision with my vote, we have a steady hand at the wheel with balls of steel who knows when to walk away, and we still get to give peace a chance.

Trump is the greatest foreign policy president in American History. This mission was scary, but well worth it and nothing other than a complete success. I definitely would have been too chicken to make the call he did.

Trump showed courage in his convictions and in himself. He delivered for us the best possible outcome, and even better, lived up to his promises of no more forever wars.

MAGA yall. It’s morning in America and I feel good.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Did they forget his first term?


Nope. I did not vote for him in 2016 or 2020. Did you forget all the neocons and establishment people who stabbed him in the back in 2020?

The hope was that his experience in those years would give him insight into being able to tear all those things down and that he wouldn't fall into the same trap again.

And while I knew I wouldn't always agree with Trump, I think he does actually somewhat try to put the country first, unlike most globalists. But he's easily fooled regardless of what the cult says. Again, 2020 and the election was stolen while he was president.

So I did vote for him in 2024, because I was hoping for actual regime change in America. Instead, thus far it's mostly been status quo, outside a few actual wins.
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