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This man is the unluckiest and luckiest man alive. Prolly would still be on death row...
Posted on 9/18/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 9/18/22 at 1:40 pm
If it was not for a one in a million (billion?) chance.
Had to be in the right place at the right time with a few other people just in the right place and just the right time.
Tax dollars might have been used to kill this man (though prolly not because they take it slow in California).
Also should be food for thought for people who say "They should be killed 30 days after they get the sentence" (which often is said).
If 30 days was used this innocent man would be dead.
Youtube link to 60 Minutes Australia. It is 18 minutes long but gripping (at least in my opinion).
LINK
Had to be in the right place at the right time with a few other people just in the right place and just the right time.
Tax dollars might have been used to kill this man (though prolly not because they take it slow in California).
Also should be food for thought for people who say "They should be killed 30 days after they get the sentence" (which often is said).
If 30 days was used this innocent man would be dead.
Youtube link to 60 Minutes Australia. It is 18 minutes long but gripping (at least in my opinion).
LINK
Posted on 9/18/22 at 1:53 pm to Eurocat
Didn't you celebrate the death of a Russian oligarch's daughter a few weeks ago?
Posted on 9/18/22 at 1:54 pm to Eurocat
They made a short documentary about this.
For the record I am against capital punishment.
The government and justice department are an entity I do not trust with that power.
Also it costs more to kill them.
I don't want to spend more too kill someone.
For the record I am against capital punishment.
The government and justice department are an entity I do not trust with that power.
Also it costs more to kill them.
I don't want to spend more too kill someone.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 2:00 pm to thetempleowl
quote:Amen to that.
The government and justice department are an entity I do not trust with that power.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 2:19 pm to SCLibertarian
Posted on 9/18/22 at 3:03 pm to Eurocat
In a study in the UK they found 30 murderers released between 2000 and 2011 went on to kill again.
In a smaller country with far less murders, so one can assume in any given decade over a 1000 are killed in the US.
Guess thats a small price to pay so one person can go free???
In a smaller country with far less murders, so one can assume in any given decade over a 1000 are killed in the US.
Guess thats a small price to pay so one person can go free???
Posted on 9/18/22 at 3:08 pm to Eurocat
I watched the documentary or 20/20 something about this. Scary as he'll. I have told people when I was a young teen. I remember a cry for allowing more circumstantial evidence to be allowed. I bet now 70 percent of convictions are circumstantial.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 3:42 pm to Eurocat
quote:Sadly the LAPD are the ones who got the girl killed by implying she was an informant. The man was awarded several hundred thousand in settlement. The girl's family was awarded one dollar!
This man is the unluckiest and luckiest man alive. Prolly would still be on death row...
Posted on 9/18/22 at 3:46 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:Wow.
This would be like our side knocking off the daughter of one of Hitler or Mussolini's kids.
Like killing Eichmann or Ribbentrop or Goebbels daughter.
Whomever did it - MAJOR stones, MAJOR props!
Posted on 9/18/22 at 3:46 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:
Didn't you celebrate the death of a Russian oligarch's daughter a few weeks ago?
No, the man was not an oligarch, he is a "thinker" not a capitalist and his daughter was, yes, his daughter but a grown woman with a Masters degree who ran his fathers' lobbying arm/think tank.
She suported his aims, the man who called for killing Americans and the "Destruction of the American Empire".
LINK
BTW - Did you celebrate the Death of Bin Laden? I did.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 3:47 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Eurotroll seems to have a bloodthirsty side, no?
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:00 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:
in any given decade over a 1000 are killed in the US.
Guess thats a small price to pay so one person can go free???
Yeah - I love to hear about the good stories - but if I had to choose one over the other I'd go with loss of 1 'innocent' man over the loss of 1000.
Binary choices are (almost) never very joyful. But they have to be made - life is that way.
Now, if we lived in a universe where nothing bad every happened, anywhere anytime, then yes I would vote to save the 1 person liable from such an unheard of sacrifice. (but in that world there would not be 1000 murderers roaming around either)
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:06 pm to Eurocat
quote:Not his daughter?
BTW - Did you celebrate the Death of Bin Laden? I did.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:08 pm to Eurocat
quote:
She suported his aims, the man who called for killing Americans and the "Destruction of the American Empire".
You talking about BLM or Antifa?
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:11 pm to NC_Tigah
We can talk Iraq in other threads.
The problem is, I think there are a LOT more than one in 1000 that this happens to.
You hear of these innocence cases where you have to wonder if the Cops don't focus in on a guy and then disregard anything pointing to an alterrnate suspect.
This Kirk Bloodsworth case (great name for a murderer....make that "murderer", eh?) is probably just as bad.
An Innocent Man
Former death row inmate Kirk Bloodsworth waged and won a nearly 30-year battle to end capital punishment in Maryland.
By Ron Cassie. Photography by Ryan Lavine | November 2013
The guards told Kirk Bloodsworth they had a work detail for him. A room near the prison hospital, above his cell and tier, needed painting, they said. When you’re locked up 23 hours a day, even painting becomes a welcome diversion, so Bloodsworth went along. The “room” that guards said needed painting turned out to be a 9-foot-tall, hexagonal steel vault—albeit with sealed glass windows, for witnesses. Square in the center of the cramped space, bolted to the floor, sat a steel chair with leather leg, arm, and chest straps—nicknamed the “captain’s chair.”
Bloodsworth, who had been found guilty of the rape and murder of a 9-year-old Rosedale girl, was sentenced to die in the chair he was now being told to paint. “You’ll be Captain Kirk soon.” “We want to get it ready for you.” “Paint it nice.” “Beam me up, Scotty…”
“Just jerks,” Bloodsworth recalls. “They thought it was funny.”
The guards also took it upon themselves to explain how the process worked. Hydrochloric acid would be poured into the vat beneath the chair. Once strapped in, at the warden’s signal, the executioner would mechanically drop cyanide pellets in the acid, filling the vault with putrid fumes that would sear Bloodsworth’s eyes and nostrils before reaching his lungs—the condemned are told to take deep breaths to avoid prolonging the agony. Gasping and choking would precede panicked contortions and seizures. It took about 10 minutes. Longer for a big guy like the young, 225-pound Bloodsworth, the guards said.
From that day forward, each time Bloodsworth walked into the exercise yard, he couldn’t stop himself from looking up at the concrete ventilation pipes, where the deadly gas left the chamber, atop the penitentiary’s roof. He began suffering suffocation nightmares, waking up and vomiting afterward. “For two years, I slept right below that room.”
Built in 1811, the massive, stone Maryland Penitentiary where Bloodsworth spent two years on death row and almost nine years altogether once held prisoners in dungeons. Since renamed the Maryland Transition Center, it looms in East Baltimore like a foreboding medieval castle. The state has executed 314 individuals in its history, nearly all here, most by hanging—the remnants of which also served as a haunting reminder of Bloodsworth’s fate. “They still had an outline [of the scaffolding] on the wall,” he says.
“You could see clearly in the yard where they used to hang people.”
Ultimately, in June of 1993, the twice wrongly convicted Bloodsworth became the first U.S. death row inmate exonerated through DNA evidence. Incredibly, it later turned out that the guy who actually abducted and murdered Dawn Hamilton slept in the tier below Bloodsworth—doing time on completely different charges.
SNIP
At the time, he’d gotten married and moved to Essex and was working six days a week in a furniture warehouse when his next-door neighbor told police he resembled the man in the sketch. Working through the list, nothing panning out, detectives eventually located Bloodsworth, whose one day off coincided with the murder. Police also learned he’d returned to his hometown of Cambridge shortly after the tragedy. Bloodsworth, admittedly a 23-year-old good ol’ boy who enjoyed his beer and pot, tried to explain he’d gotten into an disagreement with his then-first wife.
Several others where Dawn lived also later identified him in a photo line-up, but only after they’d seen his face on TV during his perp walk. That was the “evidence” against Bloodsworth. Meanwhile, he had 10 alibi witnesses and hadn’t been alone all day.
Well-informed on legal and criminal-justice issues, Bloodsworth can dispassionately detail all the practical, ethical, religious, racial, economic, and selective bias objections to the death penalty. But whether he’s talking to a law class, testifying in Annapolis or another state legislature, in front of Congress, or appearing on The Colbert Show, he hones in on a single point.
“There isn’t a system you can create run by human beings that is infallible,” he says. “Ann Brobst, prosecutor, very smart; Robert Lazaro, prosecutor, very smart; Det. Bob Capel, smart; the judges, smart; the juries, made up of concerned citizens. All trying to do the right thing.
“Dozens of people. Dead wrong.”
Baltimore Magazine -
LINK /
The problem is, I think there are a LOT more than one in 1000 that this happens to.
You hear of these innocence cases where you have to wonder if the Cops don't focus in on a guy and then disregard anything pointing to an alterrnate suspect.
This Kirk Bloodsworth case (great name for a murderer....make that "murderer", eh?) is probably just as bad.
An Innocent Man
Former death row inmate Kirk Bloodsworth waged and won a nearly 30-year battle to end capital punishment in Maryland.
By Ron Cassie. Photography by Ryan Lavine | November 2013
The guards told Kirk Bloodsworth they had a work detail for him. A room near the prison hospital, above his cell and tier, needed painting, they said. When you’re locked up 23 hours a day, even painting becomes a welcome diversion, so Bloodsworth went along. The “room” that guards said needed painting turned out to be a 9-foot-tall, hexagonal steel vault—albeit with sealed glass windows, for witnesses. Square in the center of the cramped space, bolted to the floor, sat a steel chair with leather leg, arm, and chest straps—nicknamed the “captain’s chair.”
Bloodsworth, who had been found guilty of the rape and murder of a 9-year-old Rosedale girl, was sentenced to die in the chair he was now being told to paint. “You’ll be Captain Kirk soon.” “We want to get it ready for you.” “Paint it nice.” “Beam me up, Scotty…”
“Just jerks,” Bloodsworth recalls. “They thought it was funny.”
The guards also took it upon themselves to explain how the process worked. Hydrochloric acid would be poured into the vat beneath the chair. Once strapped in, at the warden’s signal, the executioner would mechanically drop cyanide pellets in the acid, filling the vault with putrid fumes that would sear Bloodsworth’s eyes and nostrils before reaching his lungs—the condemned are told to take deep breaths to avoid prolonging the agony. Gasping and choking would precede panicked contortions and seizures. It took about 10 minutes. Longer for a big guy like the young, 225-pound Bloodsworth, the guards said.
From that day forward, each time Bloodsworth walked into the exercise yard, he couldn’t stop himself from looking up at the concrete ventilation pipes, where the deadly gas left the chamber, atop the penitentiary’s roof. He began suffering suffocation nightmares, waking up and vomiting afterward. “For two years, I slept right below that room.”
Built in 1811, the massive, stone Maryland Penitentiary where Bloodsworth spent two years on death row and almost nine years altogether once held prisoners in dungeons. Since renamed the Maryland Transition Center, it looms in East Baltimore like a foreboding medieval castle. The state has executed 314 individuals in its history, nearly all here, most by hanging—the remnants of which also served as a haunting reminder of Bloodsworth’s fate. “They still had an outline [of the scaffolding] on the wall,” he says.
“You could see clearly in the yard where they used to hang people.”
Ultimately, in June of 1993, the twice wrongly convicted Bloodsworth became the first U.S. death row inmate exonerated through DNA evidence. Incredibly, it later turned out that the guy who actually abducted and murdered Dawn Hamilton slept in the tier below Bloodsworth—doing time on completely different charges.
SNIP
At the time, he’d gotten married and moved to Essex and was working six days a week in a furniture warehouse when his next-door neighbor told police he resembled the man in the sketch. Working through the list, nothing panning out, detectives eventually located Bloodsworth, whose one day off coincided with the murder. Police also learned he’d returned to his hometown of Cambridge shortly after the tragedy. Bloodsworth, admittedly a 23-year-old good ol’ boy who enjoyed his beer and pot, tried to explain he’d gotten into an disagreement with his then-first wife.
Several others where Dawn lived also later identified him in a photo line-up, but only after they’d seen his face on TV during his perp walk. That was the “evidence” against Bloodsworth. Meanwhile, he had 10 alibi witnesses and hadn’t been alone all day.
Well-informed on legal and criminal-justice issues, Bloodsworth can dispassionately detail all the practical, ethical, religious, racial, economic, and selective bias objections to the death penalty. But whether he’s talking to a law class, testifying in Annapolis or another state legislature, in front of Congress, or appearing on The Colbert Show, he hones in on a single point.
“There isn’t a system you can create run by human beings that is infallible,” he says. “Ann Brobst, prosecutor, very smart; Robert Lazaro, prosecutor, very smart; Det. Bob Capel, smart; the judges, smart; the juries, made up of concerned citizens. All trying to do the right thing.
“Dozens of people. Dead wrong.”
Baltimore Magazine -
LINK /
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:26 pm to Eurocat
You are a traitor to our country
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:43 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:
In a study in the UK they found 30 murderers released between 2000 and 2011 went on to kill again.
Clearly, the standard of "beyond a shadow of a doubt" has to be based on clear facts not just circumstances and assumptions.
An opposite case, would be the Waukesha Christmas parade attacker Darrell Brooks. Or the Charleston, SC church killer and murderer indicted for deaths of 10 people at the Buffalo Tops Friendly Market. These are beyond a shadow of a doubt and should not have a chance to kill again anywhere.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:43 pm to Eurocat
You have the worst posts....pure stupid.
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