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This LA veto session failure can actually be a good thing long-term
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:44 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:44 am
Like many of you I was completely disgusted with the failure of the legislature (again). However, after reading this hayride article (I know, give it a chance) I think Republicans (Schexnayder) have a shot to turn this around.
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said that this veto session, for all the disappointment of not actually overriding any vetoes, was a structural success for the House of Representatives.
Seabaugh, if you’ll remember, was one of the most outspoken supporters of Schexnayder’s opponent, Sherman Mack, when those two were duking out for the Speakership back in January of 2000. He has been a critic of Schexnayder’s.
Seabaugh was the guy pushing the petition to reopen Louisiana last year that Schexnayder was opposing, until Schexnayder’s face was covered with egg after a special-session suspensive resolution gambit he tried collapsed. Schexnayder then, far too late, ran his own petition (which is still in court, by the way, with Edwards likely bringing that issue back to the forefront with the Delta Variant craze sweeping Democrat policymakers across the country).
Conservatives across the state have a very low opinion of Clay Schexnayder.
And yet Seabaugh said the veto session galvanized the House GOP delegation. He said the delegation meetings had struggled with attendance and that Schexnayder hadn’t been responsive to them. He also mentioned that the distrust over the fact Schexnayder had gotten himself elected Speaker with mostly Democrat votes, distrust which ran both ways because Schexnayder was just as terrified of the conservatives who might potentially run a coup against him as the conservatives were peeved about his method of victory and the solicitous way he treated those Democrats, was corrosive.
But that’s changed now. Seabaugh said with the veto session we’re past the election. He said the delegation, buffeted by voters deluging them with clear messages of support for the overrides, now has a much clearer sense of purpose than before and Schexnayder’s willingness to put his credibility on the line by calling that veto session and running that girls’ sports bill was a big step for them.
Previously, House Speakers would never have gone for veto sessions. They would have demanded those “no” ballots from the members so as to stay away from the scary possibility of looking like a loser.
But Schexnayder didn’t dodge that bullet. He took it. He backed the veto session, and when he did he gave those legislators, particularly the conservatives, a chance to vote their principles – at least on SB 156.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:46 am to geauxtigers87
Sounds like a word salad to me.
The house had one job yesterday and that was 70 votes.
Instead now trannies can play girls HS sports. Congrats Reps for JBE
The house had one job yesterday and that was 70 votes.
Instead now trannies can play girls HS sports. Congrats Reps for JBE
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:47 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:51 am to geauxtigers87
The Hayride saying that an ineffective legislature is actually a positive? Perhaps the Hayride is part of the problem.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:53 am to TBoy
I think they're saying is if Schexnayder finds his balls and keeps the new, united republican voting bloc intact, they can get some good things done
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:54 am to geauxtigers87
I have little to no hope. Encouraging my job seeking son to look outside of Louisiana.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:55 am to cajuntiger1010
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Congrats Reps for JBE
frick the lot of them
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:57 am to geauxtigers87
Republicans love the gambit of touting their failures as successes. They failed constantly. They continue to get smoked by JBE. The only thing they have accomplished is ensuring that a great many of them will be replaced.
Schexnayder is lucky he's term limited. He wouldn't be elected dog catcher at this point. Franklin Foil should be cast in to the dust bin of history. Tanner Magee spent more time advocating for drug addicts than he has trying to check the dictator's power. I'm not sure Barbara Freiberg has accomplished anything in her entire career. She's the beneficiary of having an R next to her name. She's the Peter Principle in action.
There are a few worth a crap, I don't know them all off the top of my head, but you have Seabaugh, Owens, and Nelson for sure. The leadership needs to all be booted in favor of the folks that actually give a crap about political victories, rather than failures we can say are successes.
Schexnayder is lucky he's term limited. He wouldn't be elected dog catcher at this point. Franklin Foil should be cast in to the dust bin of history. Tanner Magee spent more time advocating for drug addicts than he has trying to check the dictator's power. I'm not sure Barbara Freiberg has accomplished anything in her entire career. She's the beneficiary of having an R next to her name. She's the Peter Principle in action.
There are a few worth a crap, I don't know them all off the top of my head, but you have Seabaugh, Owens, and Nelson for sure. The leadership needs to all be booted in favor of the folks that actually give a crap about political victories, rather than failures we can say are successes.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:01 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:02 am to cajuntiger1010
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Instead now trannies can play girls HS sports.
Actually they are already barred by the LHSAA.
Also, in LHSAA v. State, 107 So. 3d 583 (La. 01/29/13), the Louisiana Supreme Court ruled that the legislature did not have the power to dictate policy to the LHSAA, and any law passed that attempted to do that was unconstitutional under La. Constitution Art. III, Sec. 12.
There is a high likelihood that even if there was a veto override of the tranny bill, it would have been found unconstitutional anyway.
Since trannies are already barred from competing in women's sports by the LHSAA, this was all for show anyway.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:05 am to geauxtigers87
If you're putting your faith in republicans to fight the democrats you're always going to be in for a disappointment.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:11 am to geauxtigers87
How can you keep a united votive bloc of the elected officials are all cowards and cucks
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:13 am to TBoy
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Actually they are already barred by the LHSAA.
Also, in LHSAA v. State, 107 So. 3d 583 (La. 01/29/13), the Louisiana Supreme Court ruled that the legislature did not have the power to dictate policy to the LHSAA, and any law passed that attempted to do that was unconstitutional under La. Constitution Art. III, Sec. 12.
There is a high likelihood that even if there was a veto override of the tranny bill, it would have been found unconstitutional anyway.
Since trannies are already barred from competing in women's sports by the LHSAA, this was all for show anyway.
The problem with this is at some point in the future, the LHSAA will have different leadership that can be swayed by a vocal minority. The law would prevent that, presumably. The legislature passed a law a few years ago that required CPR be taught in schools. Why not just leave that to BESE? Because law is more stringent, that's why.
Also, LHSAA has no authority over collegiate athletics where this transgenderism is bound to pop up.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:30 am to NineLineBind
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Also, LHSAA has no authority over collegiate athletics where this transgenderism is bound to pop up.
Neither does the legislature. The Louisiana legislature can't dictate participation standards to the NCAA.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:34 am to geauxtigers87
No to all of that. They don't get to say that BS. They got smoked. They trusted the Democrats votes and got humiliated. The left will not tolerate bipartisanship. Hell the battle wasn't even the left, it was in house.
Speaking of in house, the LAGOP was on its last leg. Now it's on it's own as far as I'm concerned. This is the result of sharing leadership 50/50 with moderates just to say inclusion. They present us with these great down gone republicans that are fond of the constitution, 2A, rights lies and then give us these RINOs. Those three republicans, and likely the ones that skipped out altogether, committed career suicide over this. What was the monumental mind screw over passing stone conservative leaning legislation? You tell me that the LAGOP couldn't house a front using sheriff's and mayors from across the state to support this session? The left dam sure did. Far as i can tell all they do over there is type out blogs.
Well they have a year to figure it out. They talk a mean presser and wag that finger hard, but that's the limits of their influence. Maybe it's time to not sit underdog status and get fat on pissed off voter donations. Loui needs to resign. The entire SCC needs to be reworked. 230 members strong of not give a crap. That's what we pay for.
Speaking of in house, the LAGOP was on its last leg. Now it's on it's own as far as I'm concerned. This is the result of sharing leadership 50/50 with moderates just to say inclusion. They present us with these great down gone republicans that are fond of the constitution, 2A, rights lies and then give us these RINOs. Those three republicans, and likely the ones that skipped out altogether, committed career suicide over this. What was the monumental mind screw over passing stone conservative leaning legislation? You tell me that the LAGOP couldn't house a front using sheriff's and mayors from across the state to support this session? The left dam sure did. Far as i can tell all they do over there is type out blogs.
Well they have a year to figure it out. They talk a mean presser and wag that finger hard, but that's the limits of their influence. Maybe it's time to not sit underdog status and get fat on pissed off voter donations. Loui needs to resign. The entire SCC needs to be reworked. 230 members strong of not give a crap. That's what we pay for.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:36 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:36 am to geauxtigers87
The cuck RINOs have outed themselves. Make a list.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:42 am to Herooftheday
i agree with everything you said. I left the republican party and switched to independent after all the BS last November.
However. This article talked me off the ledge a little. Do I think the Republicans will get it together? Absolutely not, but there's always a chance I suppose.
However. This article talked me off the ledge a little. Do I think the Republicans will get it together? Absolutely not, but there's always a chance I suppose.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:42 am to geauxtigers87
Nope! As i understand it $$$, politicians and the state, are afraid they will lose $$$ from corporations for being racist etc. I don't understand how feminist are screaming inequality all over the place while they don't say shite about men taking over their sports programs!
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:43 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:46 am to cajuntiger1010
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The house had one job yesterday and that was 70 votes.
And there are only 68 Republicans.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:46 am to TBoy
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Neither does the legislature. The Louisiana legislature can't dictate participation standards to the NCAA
Then why would anyone worry about the state losing events like the Final Four, Sugar Bowl, track meets, etc. in the future? The NCAA could just override state law and let transgenders participate.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:54 am to geauxtigers87
Why do Republicans have to lose first in order to win?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:24 am to TBoy
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The Hayride saying that an ineffective legislature is actually a positive?
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