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This is great news if true. Jared Kushner to leave politics…

Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Rip N Lip
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Iron Lion
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:54 pm to
You can take Kushner out of the swamp but you can't take the swamp out of Kushner.
Posted by AndyCBR
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:54 pm to
While I liked some of the deals he brokered during Trump's Presidency I believe deep down he is a leftist and was a bad influence on Trump.
Posted by squid_hunt
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:58 pm to
So he's definitely running.
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:00 pm to
Good, now if we could get that commitment from Jr.
Posted by BillRose
Texas
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:12 pm to
Why? Don jr is pro constitution and pro America. Or would you prefer AOC?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:15 pm to
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Jared Kushner to leave politics…


About 5 years too late.

Jared and Ivanka should’ve left politics in November 2016.

Letting Jared and Ivanka not only work on his administration but have the same cabinet level power as the chief of staff is one of the worst mistakes Donald Trump has ever made in his political career.

Jared was effectively prime minister of the United States from 2017 to 2021.

Jared and Ivanka flooded the Trump admin with so much GOPe trash from the RNC and the hill that it catastrophically watered down the populist platform Trump ran on in 2016.

It got to the point where the fastest way to get fired in the Trump admin is for your pro Trump and pro MAGA tweets from 2015 and 2016 were to be made known to Javanka and then you would be promptly shown the door and they mail you your belongings after.

You can bet your arse if Trump runs in 2024 and/or if he actually wins, those two will come slithering back like snakes.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:24 pm to
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I believe deep down he is a leftist and was a bad influence on Trump.


Bad influence?

Try catastrophic influence.

Jared convinced Trump to be weak on the BLM riots last year and avoid invoking the insurrection act to crush the riots and bring some real law and order.

Why? To protect the Trump campaign's efforts on "BLEXIT" and they can ignore the white working class in the trailer parks because they have nowhere else to go.

Several months later, Trump improved on his 2016 margin with blacks by just 1 point and dropped several points with white men.

And that was after they spent (actually wasted) 35 million targeting the black vote.

Voters want tough on crime and real law and order, not weakness and pandering.



In short, a leftist like Jared Kushner had did not understand Trump's base in the WWC, the current realities of demographics of America and their worldview. He got too big for his britches and had no business having the power and influence he had let alone working in the admin at all.
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 1:38 pm
Posted by CleverUserName
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:25 pm to
Obviously taking up art.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:47 pm to
I liked what he did with the middle-east peace deals, but in general, I think he gave Trump too much bad, left-wing advice. Still, those peace deals! They were good.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:49 pm to
Still melting about Kushner
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:52 pm to
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I liked what he did with the middle-east peace deals,


Those peace deals were not worth the cost of what he did on domestic policy, admin staffing and how he managed the reelection campaign.

Jared did far too much damage in those areas to justify his mideast portfolio. It was a bad and really stupid trade.

And those peace deals could've been handled by someone else. That's what we have a Secretary of State for.
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 1:54 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:52 pm to
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Letting Jared and Ivanka not only work on his administration but have the same cabinet level power as the chief of staff is one of the worst mistakes Donald Trump has ever made in his political career.


They should never have been allowed near the Oval Office.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:01 pm to
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Sentrius


I knew you would show up in this thread. Kushner threads are like catnip to Sentrius.

But I’ll allow it because you are right about Jared.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:07 pm to
Nobody makes it onto the cover of a Peter Schweizer book without a reason. It's earned.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:10 pm to
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I knew you would show up in this thread. Kushner threads are like catnip to Sentrius.

But I’ll allow it because you are right about Jared.



I guess we shouldn't expect Sentrius to put Kushner on his Christmas card list.

While his points are salient, they have absolutely nothing to do with why Trump is not our current president.

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:31 pm to
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they have absolutely nothing to do with why Trump is not our current president.


I completely disagree.

If Jared and Ivanka did not join the admin, you would have had Trump leaning on legit conservatives like John McEntee, Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon who was absolutely loyal to the MAGA platform that Trump ran on in 2016 to the very end of the term. They would've been a huge firewall against the neocon trash Javanka flooded the admin with.

If that happened, Trump would've not made as many bad hires as he made, would've not deferred to Paul Ryan on the legislative agenda, would've not made so many terrible endorsements, the Russia hoax likely never happens and would've run a much more competent reelection campaign that knew which voters they needed to target and which voters were not gettable to them.

Who knows what kind of world that would be today? A much better one I suspect.

Example of McEntee's loyalty: In the lame duck from November to January with Trump on his way out, McEntee was going around DC on a firing spree against people that he deemed disloyal to Trump and tried as hard as he can to push through last minute big ticket items like Afghanistan withdrawal.

Where was Jared and Ivanka during that timeframe? Putting their ducks in a row for an exit strategy that we're seeing come to fruition today.

Personnel is policy.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:35 pm to
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I completely disagree.

If Jared and Ivanka did not join the admin, you would have had Trump leaning on legit conservatives like John McEntee, Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon who was absolutely loyal to the MAGA platform that Trump ran on in 2016 to the very end of the term. They would've been a huge firewall against the neocon trash Javanka flooded the admin with.

If that happened, Trump would've not made as many bad hires as he made, would've not deferred to Paul Ryan on the legislative agenda, would've not made so many terrible endorsements, the Russia hoax likely never happens and would've run a much more competent reelection campaign that knew which voters they needed to target and which voters were not gettable to them.

Who knows what kind of world that would be today? A much better one I suspect.

Example of McEntee's loyalty: In the lame duck from November to January with Trump on his way out, McEntee was going around DC on a firing spree against people that he deemed disloyal to Trump and tried as hard as he can to push through last minute big ticket items like Afghanistan withdrawal.

Where was Jared and Ivanka during that timeframe? Putting their ducks in a row for an exit strategy that we're seeing come to fruition today.

Personnel is policy.



Trump lost due to a fraudulent election, not because of ANY policy decision he made.

We can debate his policy and personnel decisions indefinitely but it matters not.

You people that still believe we had a "free and fair" election in 2020 are truly obtuse.

Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:37 pm to
I hope they enjoy oblivion.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:39 pm to
The democrats Kushner, Navarro, Ross and Mnunchin were clearly the most successful at staying in the favor of and directing Trump.

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