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Theories on why conservative SC justices turn left, but never the other way around
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:37 am
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:37 am
We've seen in the past where SC appointees that were chosen as suposed conservatives later moved to a more moderate or liberal position, but we never see liberals moving right after appointments. I have a theory to why this is, but I'd like some feedback from others.
My theory is that, though an appointee may be conservative at heart, he still received his education at a very liberal college from mainly liberal professors, and this remains in his/her system and consciously or subconsciously affects their thought processes?
My theory is that, though an appointee may be conservative at heart, he still received his education at a very liberal college from mainly liberal professors, and this remains in his/her system and consciously or subconsciously affects their thought processes?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:39 am to Revelator
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heories on why conservative SC justices turn left
If someone took an objective look at Kennedy or Roberts (to a smaller degree) you'd find that their views haven't changed at all. Being touted as a conservative and being one is not the same; see John McCain.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:41 am to Revelator
Because conservatism is based on the status quo while liberalism is usually comprised of fast moving progressives who represent radical change.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:41 am to Revelator
I don’t think people change. It’s the perception of them that changes.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:42 am to Revelator
One does not get heralded for simply upholding the constitution
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:42 am to Revelator
Interaction with DC Elite society.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:43 am to Deuces
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Because conservatism is based on the status quo while liberalism is usually comprised of fast moving progressives who represent radical change.
I'd say liberalism is mainly based on emotion.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:44 am to Revelator
Because a leftist judge only rules in the manner of one who believes the Constitution is a living document. That means that it changes at the whim of the progressive movement of the time.
Why judges move left? Probably because of the DC environment which is overwhelmingly leftist.
Why judges move left? Probably because of the DC environment which is overwhelmingly leftist.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:44 am to the808bass
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Interaction with DC Elite society.
I'm sure this is also a factor with a great many of politicians.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:45 am to Revelator
The Cocktail Effect:
Most of their free time is spent hobnobbing with D.C. elite inside the beltway, and some want to appear as "moderate" and "reasonable" to these people.
Most of their free time is spent hobnobbing with D.C. elite inside the beltway, and some want to appear as "moderate" and "reasonable" to these people.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:45 am to Revelator
Probably just arrogance and hubris. Thinking that their secret recipe of government pressure applied in just the right places can be the elixir which finally cures os of our woes. Also the reason why government doesn’t retreat, marching forward forever trampling former freedoms.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:48 am to Wtodd
I figured we were talking Souter and before.
I also suspect that republicans didn't recognize they were in a war until 1987 and justice Bork while the left has been fighting it for 100 years. Even then, pusillanimous H.W.Bush appointed Souter.
I also suspect that republicans didn't recognize they were in a war until 1987 and justice Bork while the left has been fighting it for 100 years. Even then, pusillanimous H.W.Bush appointed Souter.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 8:50 am
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:50 am to Revelator
Harry Blackmun and John Paul Stevens have been two of the worst.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:50 am to the808bass
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Interaction with DC Elite society.
Possibly my biggest hold up with Kavanugh. He was born in DC and has worked in DC his entire life.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:51 am to Jake88
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I figured we were talking Souter and before.
Even then I'm not convinced they've changed their stance on anything
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:52 am to Revelator
The culture of DC is very leftist.
People who get appointed permanently there tend to take on the politics of the area so that they aren’t ostracized by “society.”
You don’t get invited to all the best parties if you don’t go along with policies loved by the left.
People who get appointed permanently there tend to take on the politics of the area so that they aren’t ostracized by “society.”
You don’t get invited to all the best parties if you don’t go along with policies loved by the left.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:55 am to teke184
I'd think a Supreme Court justice could create their own gravitational social field selecting for like minded folks, if they cared to.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:56 am to Revelator
I think you mean evangelical. I lean conservative, not evangelical.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:56 am to Revelator
Liberalism is a religion and it's not difficult spot its faithful.
Repubs would sometimes try to avoid "controversial" picks, people the press may easily identify as ideologs. The left never had to show such restraint. The MSM doesn't label their picks "extreme" or "far-left" or "controversial" or "left wing".
Repubs were the only ones following the "no litmus test" for nominees...in recent history at least.
Repubs would sometimes try to avoid "controversial" picks, people the press may easily identify as ideologs. The left never had to show such restraint. The MSM doesn't label their picks "extreme" or "far-left" or "controversial" or "left wing".
Repubs were the only ones following the "no litmus test" for nominees...in recent history at least.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:57 am to Revelator
maybe they are interpreting the law without letting political bias influence them
I've noticed that conservative justices are more likely to do this than push an agenda like the leftist justices.
I've noticed that conservative justices are more likely to do this than push an agenda like the leftist justices.
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