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re: The UK government admits that vaccines have damaged the natural immune system

Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:53 am to
Posted by Buckriggler
Member since Sep 2020
276 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:53 am to
The unvaccinated, on the other hand, will gain lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being naturally infected with it even once.


You know this is bullshite when you personally know unvaccinated people who have had covid multiple times. It's pretty clear by now that no one (on any side) knows WTF they are talking about when it comes to this virus.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39100 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:56 am to
None of what you quoted is in the paper you linked. Fake News? Or did you link the wrong thing. Here is the excerpt:
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Small increases in Roche N seropositivity have recently been observed across all age groups (Table 6) compared to the previous 12-week period. Increases in the overall COVID-19 case rates in England have been observed across all age groups and regions in week 40 (Weekly national Influenza and COVID-19 surveillance report week 41). Roche S seropositivity in blood donors has plateaued and is now over 96% across all age groups. Seropositivity estimates for S antibody in blood donors are likely to be higher than would be expected in the general population and this probably reflects the fact that donors are more likely to be vaccinated. Seropositivity estimates for N antibody will underestimate the proportion of the population previously infected due to (i) blood donors are potentially less likely to be exposed to natural infection than age matched individuals in the general population (ii) waning of the N antibody response over time and (iii) recent observations from UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) surveillance data that N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination. Vaccination has made an important contribution to the overall Roche S increases observed since the roll out of the vaccination programme, initially amongst individuals aged 50 years and above who were prioritised for vaccination as part of the phase 1 programme and more recently in younger adults as part of phase 2 of the vaccination programme.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 9:01 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:57 am to
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Y’all really want the vaxxed to die really bad
they all learned it from 'y'all'
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16873 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:00 am to
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They have to continue to check the immune cells of vaccinated individuals for years to come.


Exactly what they should have done to approve these three leaky possibly dangerous vaccines.

O.Henry would be proud.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68034 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:01 am to
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Does the "vaccine" provide immunity? If not, it is not a vaccine
Yes, it does. It may not be at the levels touted, clearly it isn't, but it does. It induces the body's creation of antibodies for the virus.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68034 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:02 am to
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None of what you quoted is in the paper you linked. Fake News? Or did you link the wrong thing
No. He is simply a liar and propagandist.
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
443 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:12 am to
Michael Flynn is not a medical authority so his opinion on the UK data is irrelevant.

It's a shame that your misleading post takes away from an important question.

What is the reason for and the implications of N antibody levels appearring to be lower in people who become infected after two doses of vaccination?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:14 am to
The shot is useless....

Get over it. There is no help from Uncle Gubment anymore!
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51475 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:14 am to
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Say it with me… personal choice


It should be. But we're still seeing the push for it to not be, even with Omicron being little more than a bad cold in most cases.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24726 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:13 am to
It doesn’t keep the person from catching the virus nor does it stop the spread of the virus. They can change the definition all they want, but it isn’t a vaccine.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51345 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:06 am to
Where does it say that In the paper?
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
443 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 12:24 pm to
The OP quotes appear to be the opinion of Michael Flynn as it is what he posted on telegram.

The link is to the weekly UK surveillance data of week 42 which states "N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who become infected after two doses of vaccination"

What we need is for actual medical experts to explain why this may be and what it could mean regarding immune system function.

Any docs in this thread that can shed some light?
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