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re: The Snap Debate

Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:41 am to
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
4328 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:41 am to
quote:


I thought SNAP and WIC already prohibited the purchase of things not in the food triangle?


Are Monster Energy drinks in the food triangle? Because they are SNAP eligible on Amazon
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
22081 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:43 am to
Not sure which, but some of the energy drinks added vitamins to get around this awhile back.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:46 am to
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Snap should only be used for necessary staples

quote:

It should be used on nutritious food. Otherwise we taxpayers will be on the hook for paying the early onset of diabetes, heart disease and other comorbidities! If you want soda, Twinkies and Cheetos get a damn job and buy all you want.

Why is this so hard to understand?
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:47 am to
I am in favor of ending all welfare but especially SNAP and all other credit card or phone apps type programs which, as some of us have noted, serves to benefit retailers. Hunger is a huge motivator.

And I say this as probably the financially poorest poster on this website and Medicaid recipient with chronic conditions (pl) that are going to kill me.

Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
10415 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Should Snap be able to be used on seafood and more expensive cuts of meat?


shrimp and fish is some of the healthiest meat you can buy. Also, everything is expensive right now, beef of any kind is $$. I'm ok with the benefits being used to buy meats, fruits, vegetables, and any kind of actualy food. They shouldn't be spent on 20 cases of Coke and Doritos
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38440 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:53 am to
Should be limited to items on this diet:
DASH diet
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23972 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:00 am to
quote:

nap should only be used for necessary staples


Take a cue from Michelle Obama. She tried to get fresh produce and fruits into the neighborhoods where SNAP benefits are common. Just piggyback on her idea from an accpetable purchasing standpoint.

Meat, vegetables (fresh or canned), produce... more along the lines of food staples. Not really sure why we allow people to become morbidly obese on food stamps which further strains medicare and medicaid. That's another cost we all have to pay for. Just teaches young kids bad food habits and leads to more morbid obesity.

Also time to stop rewarding 4, 5, 6, 8+ kids by welfare queens of any color. Put tighter and tighter restrictions on what can be bought.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35107 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:07 am to
Should be no premade meals too.
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3966 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:20 am to
So if grandma or grandpa want to eat a few M & Ms that has to come out of their $800/mo SS check.
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
17654 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:20 am to
quote:

What do the children whose mother’s don’t cook eat when their stomach is growling? Jk. I know conservatives don’t care about hungry children. They think free lunch is wrong
A true conservative believes in personal responsibility, although the idea is lost on most including many self-proclaimed conservatives. A pertinent example: If one cannot afford to feed a child one should not endeavor in activities from which a child would be born. Simple shite like that.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18101 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:27 am to
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They get a set amount... it'll be $300 either way.


They'll spend that up in one trip for steaks and seafood. And then cry about they need more to survive.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:30 am to
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Take a cue from Michelle Obama. She tried to get fresh produce and fruits into the neighborhoods where SNAP benefits are common.


That's ironic given the proliferation of "EBT ACCEPTED HERE!!!!" flags for shite food during her husband's administration. I'm happy to be corrected, but that's when I remember SNAP purchases expanding to things like energy drinks and all kinds of crappy processed foods.
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
651 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:38 am to
The Farm Bill which is where the SNAP funding comes from has always been a bipartisan bargaining agreement between the two parties.

Dems want SNAP benefits for their base and Repubs want the Farm Safety Nets for their base.

There are obviously problems within the SNAP program. I've seen first-hand the wastefulness, but there is a side to SNAP that most don't see.

There is an educational portion of SNAP funding that engages the community trying to rectify the bad nutritional choices most benefit users make and educate them on how to make food budgets and prepare healthy meals.

The cuts made to SNAP have essentially eliminated these educators who are trying to accomplish the very thing that we all want to see. So now the community educational programs that are actually working to improve health are gone overnight.

Eliminating certain foods from the program is one thing, but cutting off the resources to actually teach the people who need to be taught healthy living is counteractive to the goal trying to be achieved.

It's throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17137 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 10:50 am to
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I would prefer more soup kitchens and less SNAP.


If you really want to fix it, get rid of housing projects and snap. Build multistory hotel style buildings.

Only residents can enter, security at door to screen for drugs and weapons.
Cafeteria for meals. No togo plates, they must eat it in the cafeteria.

Housing costs would be far lower and food costs almost nothing.

I know what the food costs would be. My charity can feed 10,000 people with a meal cost of around $2.85. Meals we typically something like:

spaghetti with meat sauce, garlic bread and a cookie
smoked chicken with white BBQ sauce, green beans, mashed potatoes
hamburger steak with gravy, green beans, corn and a roll
chicken pot pie (from scratch) with cherry dump cake
chicken or ground beef tacos with red rice and refried beans
turkey wrap with lettuce tomato and pickles chips and a brownie
chicken leg quarters with BBQ sauce, seasoned black beans with cilantro rice.

The money we waste is outrageous. And these "hotels" could have some type of job training to try and get people off of the government teat. Benefits should only be available for short periods of time, not lifetimes.

Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
26291 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 10:55 am to
There should be zero debate. You get free taxpayer money. You should not be buying unnecessary, unhealthy food, which will cause health issues that will require more taxpayer dollars to treat your health condition due to your bad habits.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9562 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:01 am to
quote:

No. Restrict to economy meats (pork, chicken) and


So we're going back to segregated stores :-)

I'm fine with it, btw. But how do we decide what is a luxury and what is economy meat? If ribs are on sale for $1.99/lb instead of $3.49 does that count?
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38735 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:08 am to
You can solve that by co trolling how much they get. Let's say a family of 4 gets $500 per month. Go ahead and buy filet mignon and deal with the consequences imo. It will be natural selection for the modern world
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
9180 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 3:29 pm to
Tell me more
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6503 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 3:49 pm to
Too many bleeding heart libs would cry foul. We need to start institutionalizing the crazy Karens that act out like maladjusted toddlers. This will make it easier in general to get things done.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Of course we're retired and have the time to do the work. Most everyone knows this, but the constraints of working life leans to the time saving, unhealthy, processed foods.
I know someone who lives paycheck to paycheck. Morbidly obese. Stops and gets fast food for the family dinner 3 times/week on the way home. Broke and fat is no way to go thru life, but laziness over rules common sense. Don't even get me started on the medicaid recipients I see on a regular basis. Every single one is very fat! They are on taxpayer funded health insurance, so you know they are getting SNAP as well. It says a lot about our country when the biggest problem facing the poor, is their health issues caused by being a tub of lard.
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