re: The Snap Debate

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No. Catfish, ground beef, cheaper roasts, pork and chicken. They can use their own money for more expensive stuff.

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It will be hard to get businesses to monitor it at the register.

I think it should be more like WIC where it only covers certain things, and half of them would be produce, and fresh or frozen chicken, fish, and shrimp. Other things to include potatoes, pasta, and rice. Also milk, almost forgot about milk. Nobody should need anything else, honestly and if your diet needs anything else, you can pay for it with your own money.

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I think the card should only work at a gov't run commissary that is located in "food deserts" and only carries staples.

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You do realize that this is what Mahmdani has in mind for NYC?

He’s proposed state run grocery stores.
Democrats have already started outlawing soda and other sugary drinks in the northeast cities.
Liberals are pushing lab grown fake meats

What NYC will end up with is state owned and controlled food supplies but only of certain foods that they (the democrats in government) find acceptable. Forget red meat altogether, only free range organically fed chicken, free range eggs, no pork due to Muslims, Jews, and animal rights activists. Only organic produce. All provided by their cronies on sealed contracts.

They will either have to raise taxes to cover the “organic” label or they will not be free to customers as promised, rather even more expensive due to the organic label and also just due to the lack of competition allowing the Democrat government another mechanism towards “economic equity”.

Here again the problem is not fixed by MORE government involvement but rather by less. Cut off the SNAP program completely and get federal government out of the food industry except for the safety aspect. Let the individual states decide how to handle food distribution to the needy. Once again we don’t need the Feds to take at the point of a gun from people in one place to give to people in another.

10th Amendment

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But let’s be honest it’s just as much about Big grocery corporate welfare as it is the welfare Queens

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Indeed. I remember being told that was the plan for welfare from the beginning. The government planners know damn well that none of this money will stay in their pockets for long. It's a direct way to buy votes and keep the money circulating.

I just wish we could put an end to that.

All food assistance should come in a box, bag, or can. (Dried beans, rice, powdered milk, flour, canned meat, etc.)

We've been far too generous.

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Do you think it should even more strict on Junk food?

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It should be more strict on all food... no more using SNAP at convenience stores... no more using SNAP for prepared meals...

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You do realize that this is what Mahmdani has in mind for NYC? He’s proposed state run grocery stores. Democrats have already started outlawing soda and other sugary drinks in the northeast cities. Liberals are pushing lab grown fake meats

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I'm actually in favor of cutting off SNAP all together, but I know that will never happen.

I'm not in favor of some Democratic version of whole foods. Maybe at best the equivalent of the commissary that the gov't owns and runs on military bases. More like a gov't run food bank they have off brand labels of beans, grains, rice, vegetables, government cheese and non premium cuts of meat.

I'm not talking about Gov't taking over or controlling grocery stores which is what you described.

SNAP benefits should not allow for pick and choose shopping. The card should only say how many people are covered by the benefit, and no dollar value. People with this benefit should only be allowed to pick up a preloaded grocery cart at a specified time/place once a week. This cart has milk, eggs, rice, beans, chicken, veggies, and fruits in enough quantity to meet the dietary needs of the number in your family qualified for the benefit. Nothing more….ever.

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This is gonna be gradual. Keep in mind that only about a dozen states have ANY restrictions on Snap. There will be more and then you'll start seeing red states add items. The reason for the slow move is the fear of Dem ads in the next election: "They want to starve poor people!!!"

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That’s not going to stop them saying democracy is dead, republicans banned soda.

Saw reports a while back of store owners giving the snap folks about half what their cards are worth in cash so they can buy what they want. Then the store owners use the cards for other items.