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The Senate should be a 51 votes for all legislation
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:31 pm
By it's nature, the Senate is more resistant to change than the House no matter who has the majority.
It would tamp down there obstructionist nature of Washington.
It needs to be done.
It would tamp down there obstructionist nature of Washington.
It needs to be done.
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:35 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
By it's nature, the Senate is more resistant to change than the House no matter who has the majority.
That wasn't always the case.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:36 pm to KosmoCramer
i'm sure you felt this way circa 2009, right?
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:37 pm to KosmoCramer
Actually it's 50 votes plus the tiebreaker by the VP
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:39 pm to KosmoCramer
Look how it has come back to bite the dems in the arse trying to stack the lower courts.
Be careful what you wish for Max!
Be careful what you wish for Max!
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:51 pm to KosmoCramer
No
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:55 pm to joeyb147
quote:
That wasn't always the case.
The Senate used to actually represent the States as well... you know, it's actual intended purpose.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:14 pm to KosmoCramer
I vehemently disagree. While it is used too often and should maybe be restricted in certain circumstances, the filibuster is a great tool for protecting American people from the tyranny of democracy. The purpose of the filibuster is to ensure that the minority party has power to slow down legislation to prevent wild swings in policy based on which party is in power. The idea was to force compromise and moderation to get wide consensus to pass legislation.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:50 pm to KosmoCramer
If the Senate is just a second version of the House, then it shouldn't exist.
We need to return to what the Senate was supposed to be, a representative of the state itself.
We need to return to what the Senate was supposed to be, a representative of the state itself.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:17 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
By it's nature, the Senate is more resistant to change than the House no matter who has the majority.
It would tamp down there obstructionist nature of Washington.
It needs to be done.
No for two reason
first, we can not be changing the countries laws everytime the party in power changes, that is idiocy despite the cheerleaders wishes
secondly, the less the government is able to accomplish the better off we all are.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:32 pm to LSUgusto
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We need to return to what the Senate was supposed to be, a representative of the state itself
Just think of what would never have passed if the 17th amendment was never ratified: no major entitlements like social security or Medicare, no Obamacare, no EPA, no Dept of Education, etc. Senators beholden to their State legislature vote beyond partisan concerns. States remain sovereign over the Federal government. Federalism as originally intended.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:34 pm to Crimson
quote:
The Senate used to actually represent the States as well... you know, it's actual intended purpose.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:36 pm to KosmoCramer
Actually it would be better for Senators to vote their conscience with their constituents in mind rather than down party lines.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:43 am to Hightide12
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Look how it has come back to bite the dems in the arse trying to stack the lower courts.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Where did you hear that the Democrats were trying to stack the lower courts? It is amazing how many people believe what they hear on talk radio/tv without the slightest inclination to see if what the radio/tv charlatans are saying is true.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:05 am to KosmoCramer
quote:It is. It only takes a simple majority to pass anything in the Senate, now getting to that point is a different issue.
The Senate should be a 51 votes for all legislation
quote:Obstructionism is arguably the best part of government since less is almost always more, except in the rare occasions it’s actually less (taxes).
It would tamp down there obstructionist nature of Washington.
Obama’s 2nd term was pretty good because he couldn’t do much of anything. And it’s not like Republicans are known for not having terrible policies as well.
So I think you’re somehow forgetting that government sucks.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 5:26 am to buckeye_vol
We love our big government now
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:21 am to KosmoCramer
quote:
The Senate should be a 51 votes for all legislation
Support
Someone needs to tell McCain which party he's supposed to be representin'
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:24 am to KosmoCramer
quote:
It would tamp down there obstructionist nature of Washington
What's wrong with obstruction, everything government does sucks.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:24 am to KosmoCramer
The 17th Amendment needs to be repealed and Senators should be appointed by the state legislatures like the Founding Fathers intended.
The Senate is to conduct the business of the States, while the House is to protect the interest of the people. It's not complicated.
The Senate is to conduct the business of the States, while the House is to protect the interest of the people. It's not complicated.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:49 am to VoxDawg
quote:this
The 17th Amendment needs to be repealed and Senators should be appointed by the state legislatures like the Founding Fathers intended.
quote:and this
first, we can not be changing the countries laws everytime the party in power changes, that is idiocy despite the cheerleaders wishes secondly, the less the government is able to accomplish the better off we all are.
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