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The Sacramento Bee: More than 1 million undocumented immigrants have received DLs

Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:34 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53435 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:34 pm
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More than 1 million undocumented immigrants have received driver’s licenses, the California Department of Motor Vehicles announced Wednesday.

Assembly Bill 60, authored by then-Assemblyman Luis Alejo in 2013, required California DMV offices to issue driver’s licenses to undocumented immigrants as long as they can prove their identity and residence within the state. The law has led to 1,001,000 undocumented immigrants receiving licenses as of March 31 but doesn’t give the licensees carte blanche to drive outside of California or fly across state or federal borders.

“Immigrants are getting tested, licensed and insured and this is making our roads safer for everyone,” said Alejo, now a Monterey County supervisor, in a prepared statement. “Today, we see the law working the way it was intended to and has dramatically improved the lives of a million immigrants and their families.”

Twelve states plus Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico allow undocumented immigrants to obtain driver’s licenses. Undocumented immigrants were free to receive driver’s licenses anywhere in the U.S. until 1993, when California became the first state to restrict access and 45 others followed suit.

In 2015, the first year the law took effect, approximately 605,000 undocumented immigrants received licenses. Fewer people applied after an initial spike, and the DMV now issues about 10,000 AB 60 licenses statewide per month.



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This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6538 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:37 pm to
It would make the roads safer by reducing a million peoples worth of traffic off of the already congested California highways.

Why would any company insure an illegal immigrant ?
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:37 pm to
Can undocumented immigrantion and legal (documented) immigration logically coexist?

If giving the Feds 20-30% of your income or driving the speed limit were optional what would be the purpose of having these laws in the first place? Let’s just have congress make recommendations and all do whatever we want
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 10:46 pm
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:41 pm to
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would make the roads safer by reducing a million peoples worth of traffic off of the already congested California highways.


Ahhh yes...they would just say they can't drive today because they don't have a license.

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Why would any company insure an illegal immigrant ?



If they are paying their premiums on time then why wouldn't they?
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:01 pm to
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Why would any company insure an illegal immigrant ?



not sure if you know this but insurance companies will do anything for money
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35604 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:03 pm to
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Can undocumented immigrantion and legal (documented) immigration logically coexist?


It does in America, like right now.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:14 pm to
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Why would any company insure an illegal immigrant ?


They won't check beyond the DL that is presented to them. Most of them will pay the first month to get the car and then stop paying after that.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9234 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:10 am to
Well obviously this and the California motor voter law passed in 2015 are entirely unrelated.
Posted by roaniemacaroni70
north Iowa
Member since Mar 2018
88 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:18 am to
If they are undocumented, how do they prove their identity and residence? Is it all tattooed on their chest or something?

Edited to add: Up here you can tell who the undocumented drivers are. They drive under the speed limit and when they crash; they run like hell.

This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 12:22 am
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:23 am to
If they are paying their premiums on time then why wouldn't they?

Illegals do not pay for car insurance.

It still befuddles me how someone that has a legal ID can still be considered undocumented. Hell, you know their names and addresses. How is that undocumented.

Also, if the DMV knows they are illegal, have a name, and an address, why are illegals they scared to put the same thing on a census?
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:48 am to
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It does in America, like right now.


I know it does, but it defeats the entire purpose of the legal immigration process. Just get here however you want and grab a drivers license in California. No need to apply, get approval, and go through the paperwork.

Even inquiries into your immigration status is an issue now apparently. I can’t believe a government has the nerve to want an idea of how many people in their country are citizens of their country... Barbaric
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 12:58 am
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20369 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:55 am to
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Why would any company insure an illegal immigrant ?

How do you win compensation from someone who has no legal obligation to show up?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20369 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:58 am to
Also, how do you circumvent voter ID laws? Give illegals DLs.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 6:23 am to
I can't support this.

I've got a lot of friends and acquaintances who were not born in this country. Many of them take advantage of the fact that they have a home to go back to if shite hits the fan. Many of them are ONLY here for THE BENEFITS, and have no love for the US.

I've structured businesses where the foreigner who was indifferent to staying in the US bore the liability for riskier businesses. Some of these people do not care if they have to leave the country in a worse condition than they found it.

I'm not a racist or a bigot; I'm just anti-leech.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:44 am to
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Why would any company insure an illegal immigrant ?


Because they pay premiums? It would be great if these border hoppers were insured.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26611 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:54 am to
If you are employing illegals, then you are a large part of the problem.

If no one would hire them, then many of them would go home or not come in the first place.

If you know they are illegally in the U. S., then call ICE on them.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139705 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:55 am to
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not sure if you know this but insurance companies will do anything for money


So stupid.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11904 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:57 am to


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today we see the law working as it was intended to



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Undocumented immigrants



I don't think this guy really understands the laws
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:11 am to
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So stupid.


Most two word responses are.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139705 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:29 am to
You really need me to point out the ignorance of your statement?
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