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The Navarro Recession II---WSJ

Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:24 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:24 pm
This is the second opinion piece the editorial staff at the WSJ has written calling a possible recession the "Navarro Recession"--- LINK

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The Navarro Recession, II
Evidence of a tariff-inspired slowdown spooks the markets.


By The Editorial Board
Aug. 14, 2019 7:23 pm ET


After we warned last week that U.S. trade policy was courting recession, White House aide Peter Navarro took to Fox Business to denounce us for sounding like The People’s Daily, the Chinese Communist propaganda arm. That was novel as criticisms of these columns go, but perhaps Mr. Navarro would care to comment again after Wednesday’s recession warning from the bond and equity markets? Are they Commies too?

Stocks fell about 3% on the day on bad economic news out of Germany, China and the bond markets. Europe’s largest economy shrank by 0.1% in the second quarter as exports fell amid trade and Brexit uncertainty. Chinese readings on factory production, consumption and employment also revealed an economy that is slowing sharply. China’s industrial production increase of 4.8% was a 17-year low.

Investors saw all that and headed for the tall grass of U.S. Treasurys. The yield on the 10-year note hit 1.58%, dipping for a time below the two-year bond yield. The 30-year Treasury hit a record low of 2.018% and closed at 2.02%. Yields this low show investors are moving out of risk assets and they signal slower growth ahead—perhaps even a recession unless events and better policies spur more optimism.

Some Trumpians are cheering the Chinese economy’s pain, but they should be careful what they wish for. They could drive China, the world’s second largest economy, into its first recession since Deng Xiaoping began the era of pro-market economic reform.


A Chinese recession would mean a European recession, which would send U.S. growth down too. The impact would be worse if slower growth triggers capital flight from China and there’s a disorderly fall in the yuan.


Mr. Navarro and President Trump spent Wednesday blaming the Federal Reserve for the market meltdown, and we suppose any scapegoat will do in a storm. The Fed isn’t blameless, and we argued it shouldn’t have raised rates last December. But it has since countered that rate increase with a 25-basis-point cut in July, and even another 50 basis points won’t be enough to counter a downward spiral of trade and currency mayhem.

We’ve been warning for two years that trade wars have economic consequences, but the wizards of protectionism told Mr. Trump not to worry. The economy was fine and the trade worrywarts were wrong.

But we never said tariffs would produce immediate recession. We said they—and the climate of uncertainty they were creating for business—would chill global trade and undermine the surge in capital investment spurred by tax reform and deregulation. The growth momentum from tax cuts and a strong labor market were able to mask the impact of helter-skelter trade policy for a time. But that old economic disciplinarian, Adam Smith, sooner or later exacts a price for policy blunders.

Wednesday’s market moves are an omen of the future, not destiny. The key to avoiding the worst is to restore a sense of policy calm and confidence. Stop the trade threats by tweet. Call a tariff truce with China, Europe and the rest of the world while negotiations resume with a goal of reaching a deal by the meeting of Pacific nations in November. Someone should tell Mr. Trump that incumbent Presidents who preside over recessions within two years of an election rarely get a second term.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:33 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:27 pm to
CHINESE SHILL
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:27 pm to
We’ve been listening to these same mouthpieces for 40 years about trade and look where it’s gotten us. I’d love to know their solution to the China issue that doesn’t involve complete economic surrender
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:27 pm to
Lol at anybody that thinks tariffs are a causing the fear in the markets. Sucj a ridiculously biased and misleading headline. It's a factor, one of a thousand that has been building for over a decade.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Wednesday’s market moves are an omen of the future, not destiny. The key to avoiding the worst is to restore a sense of policy calm and confidence. Stop the trade threats by tweet. Call a tariff truce with China, Europe and the rest of the world while negotiations resume with a goal of reaching a deal by the meeting of Pacific nations in November. Someone should tell Mr. Trump that incumbent Presidents who preside over recessions within two years of an election rarely get a second term.



frick that.

Watch more jobs leave this country.

This was written by the very corporations that are getting hit the hardest. frick them

ETA: as you literally posted this trump just called out the WSJ editorial
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:30 pm
Posted by 91TIGER
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:31 pm to
You sure want a socialist don't you ?
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

We’ve been listening to these same mouthpieces for 40 years about trade and look where it’s gotten us. I’d love to know their solution to the China issue that doesn’t involve complete economic surrender


He literally doesn’t give a frick. He’d rather see his own pocket books line up.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:34 pm to
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You sure want a socialist don't you ?


Nope I do not want anyone like the socialist, leftist, failed democrat Peter Navarro.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:36 pm to
Magician2 wants the government to continue to line the pockets of a very few steel makers at the expense of all Americans.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:37 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:39 pm to
My company is projected to increase sales by $1 million before years' end and open two more locations.

You're a drama queen
Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:39 pm to
Who pays you to post here?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:40 pm to
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Who pays you to post here?




China
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Magician2 wants the government to continue to line the pockets of a very few steel makers at the expense of all Americans.


And if China caves on a trade deal.....
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:41 pm to


I read my Journal over dinner. I thought this is an IB Freeman op ed piece.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by Uncle Don
The Big House
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:46 pm to
It must really suck knowing you are about to have high interest loans called due by a Shanghai mafia boss.

China fricked
Xi fricked
IB Chinaman fricked
Crying liberals fricked

Magnificent Orange Overlord winning
America winning

Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:47 pm to
IB post


didnt read downvoted though
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:48 pm to
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HailHailtoMichigan!



you arent much better than IB REEEEEEEEEEEMAN

you support gun grabbing bills and display cuckish behaviors

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