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The most accurate "polls" are Vegas Odds

Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:27 pm
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1871 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:27 pm
It is their job to be accurate. Trump is EVEN money and Biden is +350.

When Trump starts slipping in Vegas Odds, then ill worry.

Network Polls have no incentive to be accurate.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18902 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:32 pm to
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Network Polls have no incentive to be accurate


Truth
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:33 pm to
Vegas lines are made to balance equal money on both sides so the house doesn’t lose its arse.
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
5974 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:34 pm to
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Network Polls have no incentive to be accurate.


I actually think Fox is doing what it can to say Trump is the underdog just to motivate the base to get out and vote. All the liberal leaning networks shot themselves in the foot with the bullshite poll numbers in 2016. I can't believe they would try and go down that same road again.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5253 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:34 pm to
This is false.
100% false.

Vegas just cares about winning and evening the money on both sides. More money is coming in on Trump, so they set the lines accordingly.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:35 pm to
Polls are pointless anyways. If the media focused on how our Presidents actually win elections they’d do district polling and try to construct a mock electoral college total.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 7:30 am
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:35 pm to
If democrats really believe in their candidates then they should put a lot of money on them .
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:36 pm to
Vegas had HRC winning too. They don't know anything either......
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:38 pm to
Well they must have learned a lesson because they aren’t going with the media darling this time.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:38 pm to
Maybe. The election is an eternity away, they still very easily could....
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:41 pm to
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It is their job to be accurate.


Haha what? Their "job" is to bring in the most amount of money while losing the least amount. They odds in way to ensure they don't lose their money.
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1871 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:48 pm to
You idiots are missing the point. Vegas is right more time than they are wrong.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7624 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:51 pm to
These "polls" are not designed to measure the mood of the public. They are designed to shape the mood of the public. They are using small sample sizes that are easily manipulated to achieve their desired result. I can't believe there are people out there who don't realize this.

I agree that the Vegas odds are a much better measure.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
10849 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:52 pm to
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I can't believe they would try and go down that same road again.



They will!
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:01 pm to
So are polls. Which is an uncomfortable pill to swallow around here.....
Posted by Ham Malone
Member since Nov 2010
2510 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:03 pm to
You show a complete lack of knowledge on how both odds and polls work, but yeah everyone else is dumb
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1871 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:04 pm to
which is why "polls" is in quotes. Im not equating the two. You lack the ability to think outside the box

polls in this sense is where the money is....
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 9:06 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:05 pm to
Vegas future odds, unless you can bet the field on the other side, is not their actual belief in the odds. Futures odds are simple for Vegas because they can have such a large middle, if they even let you bet on the other side, they'll still get action.

For example, they might think Clemson is a 20% chance of winning the Natty, but they'll only offer 3:1, and they'll only let you bet 1:20 on the field, if they even let you bet the field at all.

Now translate this to Presidential odds. Pay no attention to Vegas unless you can be the opposite side with equivalent odds.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 9:06 pm
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:10 pm to
Vegas literally had Hillary Clinton -750 on the morning of the Presidential election in 2016
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:12 pm to
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The most accurate "polls" are Vegas Odds


It is their job to be accurate. Trump is EVEN money and Biden is +350. 



Agreed. Vegas is in business to make money. They can't afford to have a political bias or not-so-hidden agenda, unlike some pollsters and the media
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