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The Lockdown Has Killed 21K People In Britain

Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:37 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45162 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:37 pm
Per the Daily Telegraph
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Lockdown policy has had "significant unintended consequences” such as lack of access to critical healthcare and a drop in A&E attendances

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By Laura Donnelly, HEALTH EDITOR and Sarah Knapton, SCIENCE EDITOR

Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43978 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:38 pm to
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lack of access to critical healthcare

That’s everyday under NHS in Britain.
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
14130 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:40 pm to
Color me shocked. Next time you see a liberal, tell them thank you. They've infected the entire world at this point.
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
10001 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:43 pm to
Just returned from a funeral for my grandpa. They locked down the assisted living home, so he wasn't allowed to leave his room for the past 4 months even though there were zero confirmed cases there, and <200 in the entire county. Turns out, the staff didn't have him do much physically and we believe his body gave out much sooner than it would have.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17790 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:43 pm to
There are some really smart people that suggest lockdowns in the US will end up costing an order of magnitude more years of life than they'll save. They point to standards/norms from everything from actuary tables and cancer survival rates as a function of when in the development of the cancer it was detected to rates of depression, alcohol/drug use and suicide as a function of economic conditions to arrive at these predictions.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:44 pm to
I got downvoted into oblivion on Reddit the other day for going against some guy who was saying how well the UK handled the virus compared to the US. He quoted the lockdowns and compared the percentage of people tested in each country.

What the frick does that matter?

At the time we had done 55 million test and they had done 15 million.

Their death per million numbers were almost 50% more than ours.
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3853 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:51 pm to
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cancer survival rates as a function of when in the development of the cancer it was detected


This is happening for sure. Drug manufacturers are pointing out the steep dropoff in chemotherapy sales and pathologists are alarmed that they have no work to do.

That's not because people stopped getting cancer - it's because people stopped getting their cancer diagnosed before it is too late.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17790 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:52 pm to
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This is happening for sure. Drug manufacturers are pointing out the steep dropoff in chemotherapy sales and pathologists are alarmed that they have no work to do.

That's not because people stopped getting cancer - it's because people stopped getting their cancer diagnosed before it is too late.


Yes, and now consider the average age of a cancer patient to the average age of a person that was saved from COVID by a lockdown.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45162 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 4:27 pm to
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I got downvoted into oblivion on Reddit the other day for going against some guy who was saying how well the UK handled the virus compared to the US. He quoted the lockdowns and compared the percentage of people tested in each country. What the frick does that matter? At the time we had done 55 million test and they had done 15 million. Their death per million numbers were almost 50% more than ours.

You’re tilting at windmills over on that site.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
4932 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 4:34 pm to
Purely from a suicide/homicide standpoint based on increased unemployment, lockdown has killed or will kill (this year) 35,000 in the US.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56361 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 4:56 pm to
So, about 50% of the COVID deaths.
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1206 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 5:05 pm to
I went and did a colonoscopy two weeks ago to rule out colorectal cancer. Wasn't afraid of cancer, per se, but had to rule it out. My original appointment was in March. Actual procedure in July. 4 months in cancer detection is a damn lifetime, I'm very lucky everything looked good. There are several out there that likely had a treatable form that has become untreatable during lockdowns. Others have died because clinical trial sites for new cancer meds with high rates of success have been closed.
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