re: The IRS has "lost" all Lois Lerner emails to and from the White House, DOJ...

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Why get caught in a tangled web of multiple cover-ups that implicate more people rather than just have one gigantic cover up that only implicates Lerner, and some IT staff?

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What is being suggested involves a lot more people than simply Lerner and one IT guy deleting some emails.

Posters here have doubted the IRS requires it's employees to archive past email. So you have 80,000 employees to verify this one way or another. You have documentation the IRS gives its employees re archiving. And then you have the same Lerner with the same 1 IT guy who someone crashes her computer then can do so to make it appear it crashed 3 years ago.

So which is easier?

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We already have Schumer and Cummings involved as part of this mess. I would argue that it is far too difficult and far to easy to F up by combing through each individual email and selectively deleting. If they miss one, they are toast. Don't forget you can audit the recipient's PC as well. Much easier to blow everything away.

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Once again, they have the recipients' emails. Tens of thousands.

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I don't think you get the point though: Most people are more upset about the IRS targeting and silencing political opposition, regardless if there is a WH link or not. We know there is a link to the legislative branch. Everybody involved in this needs to spend time at Club Fed for life. It's treasonous to tamper with free speech with the implication that you can sway votes one way or another by preventing information from getting out there.

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Hyperbole.

I don't think you get the point. You claim this is about "the IRS targeting and silencing political opposition". However, this was about granting tax exempt status to "social welfare" groups and the law requires that politics be not their their primary focus. A 501(c)(4) group must spend less than 50 percent of their money on politics. If these are political groups, then they have no business applying for 501(c)(4) status, which is exactly what Schumer was saying in his letters to the IRS. How the IRS went about ensuring that these were not political groups is the problem.

No one committed "treason". No one stopped any group from political speech. No one prevented information from getting out there. You can make sound arguments of why this was wrong and I'll agree with you. But when you go off the deep end like this... well I'm not following you.

Fifty years from now it will be widely accepted that it was the shot fired from the grassy knoll that took out Lois Lerner's computer.

Time for the Elisabeth Warren commission to solve this thing once and for all.

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Is this the computer she was allowed to work from home on?

She resigned in September of 2013. Her computer should have immediately been confiscated and backed up?

Why are we just learning about this "crash" 9 months after she resigned?

Vegas, do you believe that these emails going missing was a completely innocent occurrence?

This is all I'm interested in knowing from you.

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You guys supported Bush in scandal after scandal after scandal.

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Ah. Now I see what is prompting your mental gymnastics. So now the shoe is on the other foot, and the cycle of idiocy continues. Yay! This is why I've largely given up on politics. I'd like to see the whole system burn to be honest.

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Did the Republicans stand shoulder to shoulder with the Democrats when Bush fired US Attorneys for political reasons? You know because they were going after the wrong politicians. Nope... crickets.

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I spoke out against this to a degree. Certainly looks politically motivated in hindsight.

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Bush on vacation for 30 days leading up to 9/11 with a PDB advising him of an AQ threat to attack inside the US... no problemo.

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Your guy now is on vacation 24/7. Avoids PDBs like the plague.

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Lying to the American public about Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch.... who cares.

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I've spoken out on both of these issues.

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NSA warrantless tapping

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And this one - BTW, your guy seems to have put this on steroids. Two wrongs making a right?

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Walter Reed neglect

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And this one.

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signing statements

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And executive orders - are you sure you're not talking about current POTUS?

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spinning "evidence" of WMD

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Okay more moral equivalence, but, literally everybody did this - Blair's UK people (not mouth-breathing conservatives), Russia - everybody.

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torture

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What party is McCain? I know it doesn't seem obvious at all times, but he was the Republican candidate in 2008, so that's a hint right there.

But go ahead and continue to just parrot what they tell you at HuffPo, MM, MSNBC without including any critical analysis.

After all ANY criticism of this administration must be racially based, right?

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The only evidence I've seen of "wrong doing" was the IRS flagging tea party groups for additional scrutiny and I agree it's wrong. I've never defended it. The motive is still in question.

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The motive is still in question?

Maybe for someone with a single digit IQ. There's a difference between DEFINITIVE 100% proof (i.e., you see it with your own eyes), and using your God given common sense based upon all the evidence that has already been released.

Translation: You can't be this f*cking stupid.

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Did the Republicans stand shoulder to shoulder with the Democrats when Bush fired US Attorneys for political reasons? You know because they were going after the wrong politicians.

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Never really researched it, so my impressions could be dead wrong. However, I thought the issue was the attorneys were fired not for going after the "wrong politicians," but rather for going after them because of politics, and doing it with prejudice. I was also under the impression several of the attorneys involved were appointed by Clinton basically because they were reliably partisan.