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The intellectual dishonesty behind the “muh drumpf said witch hunt” narrative

Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:35 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:35 pm
Anyone who is honest with themselves knows witch hunt refers not to finding bad Russians but to media/intel campaign of suggesting Trump is a "Salem witch" who treasonously colluded with Russians to steal election.

It may or may not be a witch hunt......but exactly zero indictments and zero public evidence indicates there is a witch

Historical analogy:?What we have so far are accused witches being found to have committed adultery or some other big puritanical no no of colonial New England, but zero actual charges of being a treasonous witch

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:40 pm to
Jake tapper is bleeding out of his wherever on Twitter.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:41 pm to
what about "Russia promised me they didnt do anything"? If I were being honest with myself what is the true meaning of that?

How about "the russian hoax"? The fact is Trump uses "witch hunt" to cast dispersion across the entire idea that the Russians meddled and tried to get him elected. Furthermore he uses it to damage our DOJ and FBI all while "patriots" like you will do anything to defend him. Its pathetic.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69246 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:42 pm to
And I am already getting downvoted by dishonest retards

I am done trying to discuss stuff with the loony left on here. You have absolutely zero interest to do anything but fling shite and run away

God damn frustrating, man
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69246 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:44 pm to
That’s absolutely a god damn lie

Witch hunt has always referred to collusion
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:45 pm to
lot of melt going on up in dis thread
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69246 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:47 pm to
I just want intellectual honesty

The Nola and North BR trash coming into the board today isn’t providing it
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:48 pm to
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How about "the russian hoax"?


It is a hoax.

We were promised that Mueller would find evidence of Collusion with the russians despite there being no confirmed crime pointing to such a thing.

Nothing yet and now they're moving the case to the national security division to cover it up. What the frick ever that means.

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Trump uses "witch hunt" to cast dispersion across the entire idea that the Russians meddled and tried to get him elected.


The witch hunt here is the continued, unfair and despicable legal harassment of Trump and his allies and people associated with his campaign and administration forcing them to cough up hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees with some being forced to sell their houses to make ends meet .

frick you if want to defend that.

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. Furthermore he uses it to damage our DOJ and FBI


It's the same DOJ and FBI that let an obvious and easy slam dunk conviction in Hillary Clinton walk because it was too politically inconvenient for them while spying on a presidential campaign based on the flimsiest of evidence of bullshite unverified dossiers.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 3:49 pm
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7770 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:50 pm to
bullshite you fricking simpleton. Its called branding and its what Trump is great at. Witch Hunt is intended to make the entire investigation guilty by association. He always maintained that Russia did not attempt to help him and didnt do anything and........one by one........his lies which you idiots ate up willingly have been proven just that.

You support the outright attack on US institutions all in the name of party politics for a fricking piece of shite like Donald Trump.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:54 pm to
You are fricking insane. It's been obvious the entire time witch hunt has referred to collusion. You lap up all this bullshite by the anti American media becauae of your blind hatred of the guy. Fix your party and bring it back to the middle and maybe the ridiculous shite he says will actually matter to some people because as of right now nothing he does other than flipping to a lunatic prog could keep me from voting for him. He's America first, he has conservative ideals and policies, and he's not a hysterical piece of utter shite like you and your pals in your party.
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1846 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:55 pm to
You don’t think there is significant corruption in the DOJ and FBI? Take Trump and Russia completely out of the equation. Hasn’t that already been proven?

You don’t think the US has been getting screwed in many international trade deals and treaties?

Again I think some people have an extremely hard time separating with political allegiance with any action by their political opposition. You can hate Trump and still appreciate what he is accomplishing and to pretend otherwise is being disingenuous to yourself.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7770 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:56 pm to
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We were promised that Mueller would find evidence of Collusion with the russians despite there being no confirmed crime pointing to such a thing.


Link bitch?

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The witch hunt here is the continued, unfair and despicable legal harassment of Trump and his allies and people associated with his campaign


By unfair do you mean against the ones that were indicted or who have submitted guilty pleas? Or maybe you mean the ones who "unknowingly" received intel directly from russian intelligence agents whom have now been indicted? Could you clarify? Those poor victims.

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frick you if want to defend that.


frick you and the OP that your initial kneejerk reaction to Russian military involvement in our elections is to cry about the investigating body. If this were under GWB and you two were dems you'd be lambasted for being america hating traitors.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:58 pm to
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bullshite you fricking simpleton.


No you're the fricking simpleton here believing that Trump colluded with the russians here and honestly belive the DOJ and FBI were acting in good faith after they let hillary walk.

Shut the frick up.

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He always maintained that Russia did not attempt to help him


Even if they did, I can promise you that they have a shite ton of buyer's remorse right now as Trump has been more harsh on Russia than Obama ever was.

Placed more sanctions on them than Obama.

Expelled more diplomats than Obama.

Repteadly bombed their client state in Syria.

Sold weapons and technology to Ukraine.

Undercutting their oil and gas market by shipping natural gas to eastern Europe.

Ripped up the Iran deal which was a boon to Russia given that Iran is their ally.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26639 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:00 pm to
Russia, China, Israel and others have been interfering in our elections, and government in general, by hacking and spying, for decades.

We've done the same thing. The "hoax" part of this whole thing is that it was somehow coordinated by the Trump campaign. It wasn't and there hasn't been anything to prove that it was.

There isn't even any proof that Trump benefited from it. There is evidence that there was hacking, spoofing, trolling, etc., on both sides.

This whole charade is ridiculous.
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
3575 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:01 pm to
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If this were under GWB and you two were dems you'd be lambasted for being america hating traitors.


Im having trouble finding your commentary on this subject when Time Magazine published 2 articles about Obama knowing this was going on 4 years ago and, obviously, doing nothing about it. Can you shoot me the link to you or any other lefty lambasting his administration? Thanks
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7770 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:01 pm to
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You don’t think there is significant corruption in the DOJ and FBI?


Yet the IG report clearly stated that, though what Paige and Strzok texted about was extremely inappropriate, they found no bias in his actions. This being the IG report that, according to this forum, was supposed to prove that high ups in the FBI were involved in a soft coup!

What I see is a smear campaign against US institutions being supported by people who profess to love the country in the name of politics.

This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 4:04 pm
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2665 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:03 pm to
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Witch Hunt is intended to make the entire investigation guilty by association. He always maintained that Russia did not attempt to help him and didnt do anything and........one by one........his lies which you idiots ate up willingly have been proven just that.


Is that what the indictment said? They specifically tried to help Trump get elected? Because if I recall correctly it was stated multiple times that Russians help the Clinton campaign just as much if not more than trump.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 4:05 pm
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:04 pm to
That's because dems are America hating traitors in general and they prove it every day they try to keep Trump from marching our country forward. Go masturbate to your ridiculous Russian collusion fantasy.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Link bitch?


Uh DU, reddit, TD.com liberals all saying that everyday since November 2016.

quote:

By unfair do you mean against the ones that were indicted or who have submitted guilty pleas?


Indictments and guilty pleas that has nothing to do with Russian collusion.

Why is Mueller letting them off easy on mere process crimes if they colluded?

No, if they really colluded, Mueller would bring the hammer down on them while going after Trump.

quote:

Or maybe you mean the ones who "unknowingly" received intel directly from russian intelligence agents whom have now been indicted?


You said it pal, Unknowingly.

No collusion.

Oh and btw, why is Mueller indicating Russians he knows will never see a single step on American soil?

Russia hacks american elections and our response is to file a lawsuit?

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frick you and the OP that your initial kneejerk reaction to Russian military involvement in our elections is to cry about the investigating body.


Uh that investigating body went after a duly elected President and leaked like a motherfricker to accuse him of being a traitor without any evidence at all or even one single confirmed crime.

frick you for defending that.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73210 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:05 pm to
Muh Russians!
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