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The idea that listening to or otherwise taking in divergent opinions = "following" them

Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:09 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:09 am
Is this the most tiresome childish narrative ever?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:11 am to
It's pretty bad. I wonder if some people are about to come full circle on this issue.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:12 am to

Agree.

Just because I may read Mein Kampf wouldn't make me a Nazi.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10135 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:14 am to
The idea that a guy who made his entire career on Fox news out of hammering guests he disagreed with and pummeling them into oblivion on air is not making a deliberate choice to attempt to legitimize—at least to some degree—someone that he doesn't challenge at all on celebrating Stalin's birthday, claiming that women want to be raped and beaten, and idolizing Hilter, is asinine.

I'm not saying Huckster believes those things too. I don't think he has any beliefs of his own (and his history bears that out), he just appropriates what sells. I'm saying it is in his be$t interest to act like Fuentes is something other than a kook that no one should pay any attention to.

Case in point. Everybody is talking about him.

(And if you were talking about something else, then I apologize. It wasn't very specific.).
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 10:16 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:16 am to
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he just appropriates what sells.

At least for the niche he's targeting.

Now, the question becomes, what do we extrapolate from that?

This is clearly on top of the ability to call him the g-word.

Fuentes isn't even a biggie, to me. Playing just the tip with boomer CTs is showing his turn much more to me.
Posted by CC
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:17 am to
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I'm saying it is in his be$t interest to act like Fuentes is something other than a kook that no one should pay any attention to.
Fuentes is reaching people without Tucker’s help. It is probably not a good idea to just ignore him.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10135 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:21 am to
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At least for the niche he's targeting.


Right, but he's been targeting the same niche for quite some time now. Rightist populists.

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Now, the question becomes, what do we extrapolate from that?


That rightist populists will believe anything and follow any influencer, as long as not just opposing Israel, but furthering Israeli conspiracy theories, is part of the narrative.

They are over on the weather thread right now trying to convince people that it's reasonable that the government controls the weather. Because Huckster had a guest on that said so.

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Fuentes isn't even a biggie, to me.


I've been decrying Huckster since before he left (was fired) from Fox, as he clearly made a deliberate choice to turn tabloid. But it's hard to imagine a more fringe, extreme guy to legitimize. It's noteworthy in that respect IMO.

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Playing just the tip with boomer CTs


I don't know what that means.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10135 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:23 am to
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Fuentes is reaching people without Tucker’s help.


Legitimizing. There's such a huge difference.

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It is probably not a good idea to just ignore him.


Nobody said anything about ignoring him. I would have liked to have seen Huckster not ignore him like he used to not ignore his guests on Fox News.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463653 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:24 am to
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but he's been targeting the same niche for quite some time now. Rightist populists.

I think he's beyond that population now. He's run through all the standard right-populism stuff, for the most part.

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I don't know what that means.


Chemtrails, weather manipulation, etc.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:24 am to
yoga girl walked, so Tucker could fly.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10135 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:25 am to
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Chemtrails, weather manipulation, etc.


I see.

Yeah.

I've said it here many times well before Fuentes. He's the new Art Bell.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463653 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:26 am to
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yoga girl walked, so Tucker could fly.


RIP Collin
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109332 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:27 am to
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RIP Collin


I couldn't remember his name.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:28 am to
It's pretty tiresome. "Oh, you want to listen to so and so speak, then you must be a nazi." The label making, name calling, etc. is the childish part. Let me hear all the other people's opinion so I can formulate my own. The cancel culture needs to come to an end.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463653 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:28 am to
I had his tribute thread bookmarked but I think it's so old it's been permanently deleted.

Props to LSURussian for helping pay for his funeral, too.

Underrated, somewhat forgotten, and ahead of the curve (in terms of the zeitgeist) was GMorgan. He was a big proponent on advanced ancient civilizations.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 10:29 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463653 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:47 am to
To get this back on track a bit, I think all of these people are basically doing an impression of Gavin McGinnes, FWIW.
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