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re: The growing alliance between the Hotep Nation and Alt-Right
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:45 pm to Damone
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:45 pm to Damone
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It would appear the ultimate goal would be the building of a black culture that rivaled white culture in terms of power, social status and wealth, and allowed the two cultures to co-exist based on mutual advancement.
basically
Thomas Sowell doesn't discuss Hoteps but he's talked about this specific point a bunch when discussing how terrible affirmative action/welfare are for society and black people especially
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:45 pm to Scruffy
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There is nothing wrong with black nationalism.
I mean, personally I find it dumb to unite under a banner of an immutable characteristic.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:47 pm to Pettifogger
it's mainly a designation of independence and leaving the plantation run by the "white savior" (typically white progs)
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:47 pm to Scruffy
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There is nothing wrong with black nationalism
As long as they are for personal responsibility and not government handouts what is not to like.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Thomas Sowell doesn't discuss Hoteps but he's talked about this specific point a bunch when discussing how terrible affirmative action/welfare are for society and black people especially
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:48 pm to Damone
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Are there racist whites on the far right? Yes – just like far left blacks are racist towards whites. Do I care? Hell no, I don’t. Other people’s emotions do not stop me from reaching my goals. They NEVER have. And the minute they do, it’s my fault.
Awesome.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:49 pm to Damone
When whites try to preserve and defend their group or tribe they are often accused of racism. And perhaps there is some there but I never looked at it as 'bad' racism.
I don't prescribe to the binary view that any degree of racism is automatically morally wrong. Modest racism can be used for good things.
I completely understand and respect why a black man would want to have policies that protect and preserve black families. I get what organizations like the United Negro College Fund are trying to do and I don't condemn them as evil just because they employ a modest degree of racism.
Hyper-racism, the kind that goes beyond mere defense and preservation, the kind that attempts to subjugate and destroy other races, is where the line of evil is crossed.
I understand how 'alt-right' and this Hotep group can actually be doing the same things for their own groups and have mutual respect for the other.
I don't prescribe to the binary view that any degree of racism is automatically morally wrong. Modest racism can be used for good things.
I completely understand and respect why a black man would want to have policies that protect and preserve black families. I get what organizations like the United Negro College Fund are trying to do and I don't condemn them as evil just because they employ a modest degree of racism.
Hyper-racism, the kind that goes beyond mere defense and preservation, the kind that attempts to subjugate and destroy other races, is where the line of evil is crossed.
I understand how 'alt-right' and this Hotep group can actually be doing the same things for their own groups and have mutual respect for the other.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's mainly a designation of independence and leaving the plantation run by the "white savior" (typically white progs)
I'd have to see more, but I find it hard to believe I'd ever get on board with any race-based pride and unity endeavor. That said, I don't find it offensive and there may be some utility in all of this for people like me.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:49 pm to Damone
This is nice and all but Hotep people are clowns. There's no two ways about it.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:51 pm to Scruffy
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:51 pm to Pettifogger
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but I find it hard to believe I'd ever get on board with any race-based pride and unity endeavor.
black nationalist is probably a bad term
black separatist is much more accurate
like i said earlier, these people and the "alt-right" don't believe in multiculturalism. they believe some cultures are better than others and we don't need to lie and pretend like inferior cultures are just as equal to their superiors. these people want to separate from "black culture" and the plantation thinking in order to create their own success via their superior culture
does that make more sense?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:52 pm to Damone
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When you blame others for your condition it only leaves room for excuses to be made and where there are excuses there is no progress. Blacks MUST take responsibility for their own condition and DO FOR SELF. Until they take responsibility, whites will ALWAYS have blacks eating out of their hands. FEED YOURSELF!
P.S.
I find it ironic that the “fringe” groups of each respective race have found harmony before their counterparts. The Far left blacks still can’t get along with whites but Hotep has found a way. This is the power of independence, understanding, and accountability.
How can Alt-Right and Hotep be the crazy ones if we’re not fighting but you people on the Left feel the need to always fight. Who’s REALLY crazy? Who’s really the mature ones? Who can really lead change?
I have the weirdest patriotic swelling of pride going on.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:59 pm to Damone
I love this shite right here. Amen. Preach brother.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:59 pm to Pettifogger
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I'd have to see more, but I find it hard to believe I'd ever get on board with any race-based pride and unity endeavor. That said, I don't find it offensive and there may be some utility in all of this for people like me.
Race-based pride is a really tricky issue. It's like the slipperiest of slopes.
I see the utility in nationalism, but that's much more inclusive and geared toward the betterment of a nation, irrespective of skin color.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:59 pm to Damone
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Are there racist whites on the far right? Yes – just like far left blacks are racist towards whites. Do I care? Hell no, I don’t. Other people’s emotions do not stop me from reaching my goals. They NEVER have. And the minute they do, it’s my fault.
Well, It's rare that TD raises my awareness, but I was unaware of this HOTEP stuff and might just have to look into it some more.
These guys seem to have gotten a hold of some RED PILLS somehow. Good for them.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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black nationalist is probably a bad term
black separatist is much more accurate
like i said earlier, these people and the "alt-right" don't believe in multiculturalism. they believe some cultures are better than others and we don't need to lie and pretend like inferior cultures are just as equal to their superiors. these people want to separate from "black culture" and the plantation thinking in order to create their own success via their superior culture
does that make more sense?
I follow your explanation of what they believe, but I'm still responding to the concept of black nationalism if it includes some objective believe in the superiority of black culture. I assume that this superiority derives from something innate, in which case, I still wouldn't support any concept of inherent superiority of culture on account of racial distinction.
Now, I don't object to objectively classifying one culture as superior to another, at least in theory, but I'm not sure how we can talk about their view without getting back to the root issue of racial difference = superiority. I mean, the point seems to be that they want to forge their own success and their own culture apart from white progressivism (which is fine of course), but without knowing what would become of that, where does the superiority derive from?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:06 pm to Pettifogger
Musical, athletic, and artistic talent.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:08 pm to Pecker
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I see the utility in nationalism, but that's much more inclusive and geared toward the betterment of a nation, irrespective of skin color.
Nationalism to me has to come back to some cultural superiority argument. I reject cultural relativism in large part, so I can certainly back some nationalistic argument wherein western culture is viewed as superior and within western culture, American culture has objectively superior qualities.
Apart from that, I agree, it's a pragmatic consideration more often.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:12 pm to kingbob
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Musical, athletic, and artistic talent.
Yeah but this doesn't really change my position. I'm not necessarily arguing for inherent equality among the races. I'm arguing the virtues of pridefulness and unification on the basis of race.
At some point, it becomes largely inseparable from the broader culture of a race, so I think it's almost a semantic distinction. Probably the best I could describe my position is that I can't see myself agreeing/endorsing with any racial identity-backed movement.
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