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The fact all House Dems voted Schexnayder for Speaker tells me Mack was the better choice

Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:43 am
Posted by toosleaux
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:43 am
Not like it matters anyway, this state’s politics are fricked. Just found it telling that all the Dems rallied behind Schexnayder.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:47 am to
Yeah, JBE fixed his mistake from last time. Instead of pushing a candidate, he just sat back and chose sides. Now he owns the speaker..and thus the committee chairs and memberships.

I am really curious if we see a speakership challenge in the next 4 years.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:47 am to
It is amazing the republicans in this state cannot get their shite together
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:47 am to
Those RINOs who helped democrats get their preferred toady in place should have conservative challengers next election.

Republicans helping democrats get the toady they want is an absolute betrayal of voters who wanted conservative control of the statehouse, not JBE having a RINO toady that's malleable to him.

Louisiana just cannot get out of its own way.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:48 am to
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Those RINOs who helped democrats get their preferred toady in place should have conservative challengers next election.


I tried to write it down, but is there a list online somewhere yet? Any new republicans (other than fricking Francis Thompson)?

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:49 am to
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I am really curious if we see a speakership challenge in the next 4 years.



Clay will have a hell of a time making peace with the conservative majority after he begged JBE for help in getting the Speaker slot.

He lost 45-23 amongst republicans.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11564 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:52 am to
When people ask how a horrible governor like JBE can be reelected in such a "red" state...this is why. The GOP in Louisiana only have the "R" after their name to get elected and then legislate as democrats. Why do they do it? Because they can.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:52 am to
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Clay will have a hell of a time making peace with the conservative majority after he begged JBE for help in getting the Speaker slot.

He lost 45-23 amongst republicans.


Exactly. Now does he put some of those in charge of key committees (Appropriations, Ways and means, education, House and Government-with redistricting duties)?

Or does he solidify his "base" and reward his supporters?

Honestly if he is smart, he consolidates his support.

We will know soon about the committees.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:53 am to
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I tried to write it down, but is there a list online somewhere yet? Any new republicans (other than fricking Francis Thompson)?



Stuart Bishop nominated Clay.

Tanner Magee is Pro Tem.

They should be losers next election.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:57 am to
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Exactly. Now does he put some of those in charge of key committees (Appropriations, Ways and means, education, House and Government-with redistricting duties)?

Or does he solidify his "base" and reward his supporters?



Hayride is floating rumor that Clay will give democrats as many as 7 of the 16 chairmanships.

If that's true, then that's absolutely infuriating and a Speaker challenge should be brought forward in short order, with a much better candidate than Sherman Mack I might add.

People voted for conservative control of the statehouse, democrats should get zero chairmanships.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:13 pm to
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Hayride is floating rumor that Clay will give democrats as many as 7 of the 16 chairmanships.


No way is that true. If anything it's a false flag so 5 or 6 doesn't look so bad.

Of course a speakership challenge doesn't matter if the same system for electing a speaker doesn't change. Without party discipline it won't matter other than to build up pressure on the RINOs.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:18 pm to
This is last year’s Senate all over again. I guarantee at least one committee will be majority Dem, it’s just a matter of which.

This is a damn travesty for our state. Schexnayder and Bishop should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:21 pm to
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This is last year’s Senate all over again. I guarantee at least one committee will be majority Dem, it’s just a matter of which.


As I take what you say on these issues seriously, I am now very sad. That would be a travesty.

quote:

This is a damn travesty for our state. Schexnayder and Bishop should be ashamed of themselves.


I am not shocked by that blowhard Bishop. A little surprised by Schexnayder.

REALLY surprised by Garafalo. He was part of the fiscal hawks.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32858 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:24 pm to
Just someone looking at it from the outside of the R and D camps.

Rs have 27 of 39 seats in the senate.
Rs have 68 of 105 seats in the house.

Both have been under the control of Rs for the last 12 years.

Every statewide elected official besides the governor has been an R for the last 4 years and will be for the next 4 years.

The governor was an R for 8 years before JBE.

At what point do we stop scapegoating JBE and Ds? Seems like anything that happens you don’t like, it’s Ds or RINOs that cause it. If we have issues in 4 years, will anyone be willing to blame the 95% of the Rs who run the Capitol or will it still be Ds fault?

Just asking.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

This is last year’s Senate all over again. I guarantee at least one committee will be majority Dem, it’s just a matter of which.

This is a damn travesty for our state. Schexnayder and Bishop should be ashamed of themselves.


This is a good example as to why I laughed at the so called conservatives who justified a vote for Edwards because the state legislature would "stop him".

That and Edwards will be a one termer anyway nonsense ignoring the fact that incumbents are hard to remove and the GOP might not have a candidate capable of winning and you'll be stuck with Edwards for 8 years.

Those two reasons were complete bullshite.

They hated Vitter so much they ignored reality about how politics works in this state and it absolutely matters who the Governor is and which party he's from.

Lesson here, elections have consequences and elections are about tending to your political and financial interests, not stupid things like a short sighted temper tantrum.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:31 pm to
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Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:31 pm to
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At what point do we stop scapegoating JBE and Ds? Seems like anything that happens you don’t like, it’s Ds or RINOs that cause it. If we have issues in 4 years, will anyone be willing to blame the 95% of the Rs who run the Capitol or will it still be Ds fault?

Just asking.


If 40% of Republicans side with the Democrats why should the 60% of Republicans get blamed?

Why SHOULDN'T the blame be on the Dems and 40% Reps who actually run the capitol along with the governor?

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Just someone looking at it from the outside of the R and D camps.




quote:

Rs have 27 of 39 seats in the senate.
Rs have 68 of 105 seats in the house.

Both have been under the control of Rs for the last 12 years.

Every statewide elected official besides the governor has been an R for the last 4 years and will be for the next 4 years.

The governor was an R for 8 years before JBE.

At what point do we stop scapegoating JBE and Ds? Seems like anything that happens you don’t like, it’s Ds or RINOs that cause it. If we have issues in 4 years, will anyone be willing to blame the 95% of the Rs who run the Capitol or will it still be Ds fault?

Just asking.



Here's someone who has absolutely no clue about how many democrats in Louisiana slap an R next to their name to win elections and then govern and vote like a democrat.

We still have a lot of work to do to weed those frauds out.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:36 pm to
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Would you guys be mad if I told you some f the yes Republican votes for our new speaker come down to tickets for the game tonight?

Just a rumor I’m sure that’s not true.


Meh, I really can't blame them too much about that. It's LSU, I would be using whatever influence I had to attend too.

I am far more upset by giving the democrats the keys to the kingdom.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:37 pm to
A Bible verse comes to my mind:

"So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth."
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