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The Double Edge of Meritocracy

Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:13 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:13 am

If universities and corporations only selected the best students/workers, the majority would be East Asian, Indian (dot), Middle Eastern, and White. Mostly in that order, especially tech industries.

I think there is an underlying tone that this board has that everything would be completely white people. That is not necessarily the case unless your talking about more rural swaths of the country. Also, there are plenty of uneducated (as in no degree/vocation) or whites who work in low skilled jobs that require associatites education.

(The OT board constantly talks about operator baws and sometimes "white trash", so this is relevant to the situation).

This would become more evident if we went with a Meritocratic system of immigration. We would get smarter immigrants but it inevitably would push native whites out as well as other Americans.

I'm willing to accept these as probabilities. Are you willing to accept that better immigration reform could become competitive?
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3100 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 5:02 am to
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I think there is an underlying tone that this board has that everything would be completely white people


And I think your premise is wrong. How difficult is it to understand that the MAJORITY of us see immigration through the lens of nationalism and what is to the good and benefit of our country, NOT SKIN COLOR. Personally, I would love a full on meritocracy, and let the results speak for themselves.

Secondly, what do you mean by “immigration reform”. Whatever your definition is, we have too many citizens that need our help as it is. We have failing schools, crumbling infrastructure, national debt to crush our grandchildren, drug epidemics, and on, and on. We are in no shape to take in more. Our energy and resources should be directed towards LIFTING UP our fellow countrymen. If ANYTHING, immigration should be strict needs-based meritocracy, otherwise shops closed.

Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 5:04 am to
I employed several hundred Middle Eastern guys at one time and they work hard mister. But critical thinking skills were not a characteristic. They had to have, yes, white supervision. Without it these was chaos. Shockingly primitive chaos.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 5:09 am to
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If universities and corporations only selected the best students/workers, the majority would be East Asian, Indian (dot), Middle Eastern, and White. Mostly in that order, especially tech industries.


What specific jobs? Engineers and IT professionals, yea. Sales, marketing, finance, HR that’s not the case.

I work at Salesforce. In my hub of 600 90% are white.

East Asian, Indian, Middle East just aren’t personable, as a majority, to be leading contenders for some jobs like sales and marketing. They are very good at STEM. But even IT techies still are made up with a bunch of whites and I expect that trend to grow as it’s becoming a hot undergrad degree.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 5:26 am to
Can you site examples?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48807 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 5:56 am to
You are very wrong, there would be very few Indian or middle eastern, do away with the H1B so big tech quits importing low paid workers to displace jobs Americans can do. You see a lot of foreign doctors engineers etc. now because you are seeing the .000001 smartest of billions of people who make it to the United States.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 6:04 am to
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I think there is an underlying tone that this board has that everything would be completely white people


You really are just an absolutely lost person with absolutely no understanding of the world.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259593 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 6:25 am to

quote:

If universities and corporations only selected the best students/workers, the majority would be East Asian, Indian (dot), Middle Eastern, and White. Mostly in that order, especially tech industries.


And?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 6:30 am to
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I think there is an underlying tone that this board has that everything would be completely white people

Nobody thinks this

Your entire premise is faulty
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5047 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 6:36 am to
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Your entire premise is faulty



And that is not the only thing. If he comes across like this on a message board, imagine what a despicable and fricked up human being he must be in person.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11110 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 6:44 am to
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This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 7:07 am to
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I'm willing to accept these as probabilities. Are you willing to accept that better immigration reform could become competitive?


Only the weak are afraid of competition.

Only victims fear victimhood.

Both of those terms encompass the left. We are not of the left.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 7:11 am to
You mistake test scores for merit and have clearly never worked with Indians in a business setting.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 7:13 am to
If I or my children are beaten for a job or admission or whatever by someone who is considered more competitive, at least there's something I can hope to do about it.

If we are beaten simply because we are the wrong color, there's nothing that can be done.

The OP is retarded
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79595 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 7:15 am to
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Can you site examples?


He can’t. He’s just here to stir shite.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 7:18 am to
I've said it before and I'll say it again

When people make a habit of starting shite bomb threads on this board that they then do not participate in, that is my ONE criteria that I would insta-ban people for.
Posted by Rattlehead82
Florida
Member since Sep 2009
1915 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 7:19 am to
quote:

I think there are tons of overt white supremacists on this board.


You're right, we do have a ton of left wing posters that are racists.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42474 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 7:29 am to
quote:

I think there is an underlying tone that this board has that everything would be completely white people.


I am positive your thinking is wrong. I have never seen any implication here - or anywhere - that conservatives on here are supporting any policy based on 'whiteness' - AT ALL.

We do seem to disagree that putting whites and the low end of every opportunity because of nothing more than their 'whiteness' is wrong.

You misjudge people who are all for meritocracy if you believe otherwise.

My only restriction for admission of foreigner of any color would be whiter or not they were here for the purpose of doing harm to America - would not want some blond haired blue eyed genius NAZIs or USSR commies to have any access - AT ALL.

And no - I do not want hordes of uneducated backward cultured parasites invading our country in mass waves illegally and dispersing themselves into the interior anomalously - REGARDLESS of color. The mere fact that there are not that many white-skinned people of that description is a product of history - not of prejudice.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79595 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 7:32 am to
quote:

If universities and corporations only selected the best students/workers, the majority would be East Asian, Indian (dot), Middle Eastern, and White. Mostly in that order, especially tech industries.

I think there is an underlying tone that this board has that everything would be completely white people. That is not necessarily the case unless your talking about more rural swaths of the country. Also, there are plenty of uneducated (as in no degree/vocation) or whites who work in low skilled jobs that require associatites education.

(The OT board constantly talks about operator baws and sometimes "white trash", so this is relevant to the situation).

This would become more evident if we went with a Meritocratic system of immigration. We would get smarter immigrants but it inevitably would push native whites out as well as other Americans.

I'm willing to accept these as probabilities. Are you willing to accept that better immigration reform could become competitive?


What a rambling mess this is.

Look, I’m sorry you can’t find a decent engineering job. But you should’ve researched the hiring rates for SU engineers a bit better before choosing to go there. It’s got nothing to do with race and everything to do with quality of education.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 7:44 am to
It's been 3.5 hours since this fricker called the board a bunch of white supremacists and then disappeared.

Ban this fricker

Seriously
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