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The Democrats and the Constitution
Posted on 2/9/21 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 2/9/21 at 6:39 pm
Nothing makes me more nauseous than when a Dim invokes the Constitution as something they are deeply passionate about. We all know the Constitution is merely an inconvenience to them as they try to twist the words and intent of it into whatever policy or action suits their needs at that time.
The Democrats could recreate Pol Pots policies and argue it is"Constitutional", because in their minds the Constitution is a living breathing document that can warp into whatever they would like... all the while Republicans would sit back and wag their fingers and send stern letters. And of course a handful or so of the Republicans would go along with them as a sign of bipartisanship and working together.
The Democrats could recreate Pol Pots policies and argue it is"Constitutional", because in their minds the Constitution is a living breathing document that can warp into whatever they would like... all the while Republicans would sit back and wag their fingers and send stern letters. And of course a handful or so of the Republicans would go along with them as a sign of bipartisanship and working together.
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Posted on 2/9/21 at 6:43 pm to burger bearcat
Mistake: you can't use the words Democrat and Constitution in the same sentence....They just don't go together! Kinda like oil and water...
In fact, the DEM LIBS are so unhappy with our constitution that it has been under attack for years....they consider it EVIL!
In fact, the DEM LIBS are so unhappy with our constitution that it has been under attack for years....they consider it EVIL!
Posted on 2/9/21 at 6:56 pm to oldskule
The constitution is a racist
Posted on 2/9/21 at 6:57 pm to oldskule
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Mistake: you can't use the words Democrat and Constitution in the same sentence
Sure you can. - Democrats piss on the Constitution. See, easy.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:21 pm to burger bearcat
Ok I'll bite.
First off, as a left-leaning liberal I believe strongly in constitutional government, full stop. But it does not follow that I should speak of "The Constitution", particularly as flawed as ours is, with an air of veneration & holy reverence.
After all, what is a constitution, but the set of rules by which a government operates? Literally nothing more & nothing less. Or to be more precise & definitional, a constitution is the set of laws, rules, traditions & precedents by which a government operates; the basic law. Almost all countries (including free & authoritarian ones) have a constitution, whether written or unwritten. Many of them go so far as to enumerate personal rights & freedoms, even those of some of the most repressive governments in the world. My point being: absent a willingness or enough political/legal incentive by those who actually wield power to respect individual rights & limits on their governing prerogatives in practice, "constitutional rights" are nothing but words on paper. This is the case in many countries; in fact, historically it has often been the case in our country.
The fact that the present constitution has lasted 233 years isn't so much a testament to the wisdom or vision of the politicians who wrote it, as it is testament to what has been our country's shared commitment to the rule of law & respect for constitutional boundaries. When this breaks down, no constitution is going to save us, no matter how much we wrap it in mythos & reverence.
This is precisely why I sounded the alarm so loudly in 2016. I didn't care for Hillary at all, but I fell into line & voted for her because I understood full well the threat that Trump posed to democracy, liberty, the rule of law & constitutional government. For this I was often dismissed as hysterical, or altogether got laughed out of the room. It turns out such fears were well-founded - & the events of 6 January 2021 have erased all doubt.
No, "The Constitution" couldn't save us from despotism. Only a determined majority of American voters was able to do that, & that was only by a whisker.
First off, as a left-leaning liberal I believe strongly in constitutional government, full stop. But it does not follow that I should speak of "The Constitution", particularly as flawed as ours is, with an air of veneration & holy reverence.
After all, what is a constitution, but the set of rules by which a government operates? Literally nothing more & nothing less. Or to be more precise & definitional, a constitution is the set of laws, rules, traditions & precedents by which a government operates; the basic law. Almost all countries (including free & authoritarian ones) have a constitution, whether written or unwritten. Many of them go so far as to enumerate personal rights & freedoms, even those of some of the most repressive governments in the world. My point being: absent a willingness or enough political/legal incentive by those who actually wield power to respect individual rights & limits on their governing prerogatives in practice, "constitutional rights" are nothing but words on paper. This is the case in many countries; in fact, historically it has often been the case in our country.
The fact that the present constitution has lasted 233 years isn't so much a testament to the wisdom or vision of the politicians who wrote it, as it is testament to what has been our country's shared commitment to the rule of law & respect for constitutional boundaries. When this breaks down, no constitution is going to save us, no matter how much we wrap it in mythos & reverence.
This is precisely why I sounded the alarm so loudly in 2016. I didn't care for Hillary at all, but I fell into line & voted for her because I understood full well the threat that Trump posed to democracy, liberty, the rule of law & constitutional government. For this I was often dismissed as hysterical, or altogether got laughed out of the room. It turns out such fears were well-founded - & the events of 6 January 2021 have erased all doubt.
No, "The Constitution" couldn't save us from despotism. Only a determined majority of American voters was able to do that, & that was only by a whisker.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:28 pm to TallulahtheTiger
And you wonder why people laughed at you and called you hysterical? Ok maybe hysterical isn’t the right term, it’s more ignorant and completely misinformed.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:33 pm to TallulahtheTiger
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TallulahtheTiger
All I can say is WOW, you are a complete brainwashed mess of a person that doesn’t belong in society
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:39 pm to burger bearcat
The Democrats find it ridiculous to be kept in check by a document made in the late 18th Century.
Of course, if Democrats had lived in the 1780's they'd all be dead within three years.
Of course, if Democrats had lived in the 1780's they'd all be dead within three years.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:42 pm to burger bearcat
The Dims and the Constitution? Same as oil and water.....they don’t mix.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:44 pm to burger bearcat
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:56 pm to Madking
Well I did predict that Trump would not willingly leave power after losing the election.
Quite to the contrary of what you insinuate about me, I do know a lot about history, government & in particular how democracies become dictatorships. Do I really need to list all the boxes on the authoritarian checklist that applied to Trump? Serial abuse of power. Retaliation against whistle-blowers. Demonzation of marginalized people & groups as "enemies within". Deploying literal secret police to act as storm troopers against street protesters. Contempt for Congress's constitutional prerogative to set the budget & dictate spending. The ridiculous cult of personality around the man & the truly frightening cult of obedience within his party. INCITEMENT OF AN ARMED MOB TO ATTACK CONGRESS, with the intent to interfere with the dicharge of its constitutional duties & to OVERTURN AN ELECTION BY FORCE. I mean, the putz literally ordered an attack on American democracy. He deserves a fate like Mussolini.
Quite to the contrary of what you insinuate about me, I do know a lot about history, government & in particular how democracies become dictatorships. Do I really need to list all the boxes on the authoritarian checklist that applied to Trump? Serial abuse of power. Retaliation against whistle-blowers. Demonzation of marginalized people & groups as "enemies within". Deploying literal secret police to act as storm troopers against street protesters. Contempt for Congress's constitutional prerogative to set the budget & dictate spending. The ridiculous cult of personality around the man & the truly frightening cult of obedience within his party. INCITEMENT OF AN ARMED MOB TO ATTACK CONGRESS, with the intent to interfere with the dicharge of its constitutional duties & to OVERTURN AN ELECTION BY FORCE. I mean, the putz literally ordered an attack on American democracy. He deserves a fate like Mussolini.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:00 pm to TallulahtheTiger
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Quite to the contrary of what you insinuate about me, I do know a lot about history, government & in particular how democracies become dictatorships. Do I really need to list all the boxes on the authoritarian checklist that applied to Trump? Serial abuse of power. Retaliation against whistle-blowers. Demonzation of marginalized people & groups as "enemies within". Deploying literal secret police to act as storm troopers against street protesters. Contempt for Congress's constitutional prerogative to set the budget & dictate spending. The ridiculous cult of personality around the man & the truly frightening cult of obedience within his party. INCITEMENT OF AN ARMED MOB TO ATTACK CONGRESS, with the intent to interfere with the dicharge of its constitutional duties & to OVERTURN AN ELECTION BY FORCE. I mean, the putz literally ordered an attack on American democracy. He deserves a fate like Mussolini.
He didn't do any of those things. You've convinced yourself with lies, because he hurt your feelings about something. You are weak. You deserve the fate that you will soon face. You aint gonna like it.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:13 pm to TallulahtheTiger
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Do I really need to list all the boxes on the authoritarian checklist that applied to Trump?
Don’t be a typical liberal pussy. Don’t give us a checklist. Give us something, anything that supports your talking points. Let’s start with enemies and the secret police thing.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:14 pm to burger bearcat
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Nothing makes me more nauseous than when a Dim invokes the Constitution as something they are deeply passionate about.
They weren't interested in the Constitution when they unconstitutionally changed election laws without their state legislatures voting for or against. The US Constitution says the State Legislatures shall determine the manner in which electors are selected for POTUS. If one election law is changed by someone other than them, then they can not send the electors to DC. Sending them is unconstitutional, and Pence knew it.
To follow the US Constitution he HAD to send those electors back to the state legislatures.
Dem politicians have evil policies and the repubs betrayed our country and Constitution by allowing this to occur.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:16 pm to TallulahtheTiger
What say you, scholar, of the numerous statistical anomalies that literally all happened at one time and all for the same candidate? Surely someone as learned as you can educate little ol me
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:50 pm to ShoeBang
I don't claim to be smarter than anyone else, but I'm learned enough to think for myself & not fall for such obvious bull$h!t as this "stolen election" narrative. I'm learned enough to distinguish real journalism from fantasy & propaganda.
So, what say I to the question you posed? "Statistical anomalies" my arse. Trump is a pathetic loser & you guys can't take it so you just start spouting a bunch of conspiracist diarrhea.
So, what say I to the question you posed? "Statistical anomalies" my arse. Trump is a pathetic loser & you guys can't take it so you just start spouting a bunch of conspiracist diarrhea.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 11:55 pm to TallulahtheTiger
Ok, so 81 million voted for a dumb arse like Joe Biden. You all deserve the bad shite that will soon rain down on you. You lost, along with the rest of us. You are going to hate what your life will soon become.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:11 am to burger bearcat
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& voted for her because I understood full well the threat that Trump posed to democracy, liberty, the rule of law & constitutional government.
You are sooo full of shite. You're either dumb as a bag of rocks or .... Nevermind, I'll go with my first choice.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:17 am to David_DJS
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Let’s start with enemies and the secret police thing.
On the point of "enemies within" - The demonization of Muslims, asylum seekers, journalists & black people rising up against police abuse, for starters. In real terms this led to the Muslim travel ban, the family-separation policy, the open embrace of violent far-right or white-nationalist groups, police repeatedly firing on & arresting journalists, & the excusing & encouragement by the president of police & vigilante violence.
On the point of secret police or "storm troopers" - How else should we describe armed agents of the executive branch, deploying without insignia or identification, over the objection of state & local authorities, to act as personal enforcers to the president? These police acted with complete impunity & beyond all accountability, on specific orders from Trump or his henchmen, in places both inside & outside of federal jurisdiction.
Scary to think of what this little tinpot despot would've done had he succeeded in pulling off his autogolpe.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:26 am to TallulahtheTiger
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INCITEMENT OF AN ARMED MOB TO ATTACK CONGRESS
Listen you pussy arse low testosterone liberal, if you are going to make the claim that Trump incited an armed mob to attack congress, please post your evidence of this.
That's right, there is no evidence, because it didn't fricking happen. If it did, the national news media would play Trump's inciting words on an endless loop over and over for weeks. Since he never said or ordered any such thing, there is no audio of it.
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