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The Attorney General should make sure full report is never released to Congress/Public
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:09 am
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:09 am
If you're familiar with the history of the Bill Clinton impeachment, that whole circus is was fed in part by Ken Starr feeding the whole and entire report to Congress and thus started a mass hysteria that quite frankly was not worth it all in the long run over a sordid affair with a staff member that had no effect on national security, his official performance as President, any tax dollars or official government program.
After that debacle was over Congress allowed the independent counsel statute to expire after the sick hysteria that was the impeachment hearings and trial in the senate. Not only that but it also led to massive GOP losses in the following midterms when they pushed too far and I think that's something democrats would like to avoid here in a presidential election year.
It's official DOJ policy to not allow prosecutors to disparage anyone they are not charging with a crime. Robert Mueller is even is not recommending impeachment on any charges whatsoever at all. No recommendations for impeachment or indictment, the report should never be released.
Btw, That's the same reason Rosenstein based his memo on to recommend firing Comey after the Hillary presser.
That policy should be followed here after democrats and Trump hating republicans are asking for the full report. And it should never be released.
After that debacle was over Congress allowed the independent counsel statute to expire after the sick hysteria that was the impeachment hearings and trial in the senate. Not only that but it also led to massive GOP losses in the following midterms when they pushed too far and I think that's something democrats would like to avoid here in a presidential election year.
It's official DOJ policy to not allow prosecutors to disparage anyone they are not charging with a crime. Robert Mueller is even is not recommending impeachment on any charges whatsoever at all. No recommendations for impeachment or indictment, the report should never be released.
Btw, That's the same reason Rosenstein based his memo on to recommend firing Comey after the Hillary presser.
That policy should be followed here after democrats and Trump hating republicans are asking for the full report. And it should never be released.
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:13 am to Sentrius
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And it should never be released.
Barr, by statute is barred from releasing it. It contains grand jury material, and that is a crime for Barr to make public
This thing is over. The DIMs know it, too. Their calls for release are only theatrics at this point
Posted on 3/25/19 at 5:47 am to Sentrius
An affair with a staffer is a national security risk. It leaves the president open to the possibility of blackmail.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 5:52 am to Sentrius
But if it leads to the Democrats overplaying their hand and losing bigly like the 90's Republicans did, then they should release it?
Posted on 3/25/19 at 5:58 am to Sentrius
The republicans lost 5 seats in 1998. They lost 2 in 2000.
Why don't people look shite up?
The results were sold as "disappointing" because the other party usually picks up seats in a 6th year of a president.
Why don't people look shite up?
The results were sold as "disappointing" because the other party usually picks up seats in a 6th year of a president.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 5:59 am to Sentrius
quote:Au contraire.
The Attorney General should make sure full report is never released to Congress/Public
If you're familiar with the history of the Bill Clinton impeachment, that whole circus is was fed in part by Ken Starr feeding the whole and entire report to Congress
They should release as much of it as can be released. They should release everything not including Grand Jury testimony, classified information, or something which would definitively encroach on Executive Privilege.
Put it all out there.
THERE WAS NO COLLUSION!
Information on assembly of the Dossier alone (assuming the team of angry Democrats even pursued it), would be worth the price of admission.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 6:01 am to NC_Tigah
No way it isn't released by the next dem ag anyway
Posted on 3/25/19 at 6:29 am to MorningWood
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An affair with a staffer is a national security risk. It leaves the president open to the possibility of blackmail.
That's a stretch......Slick lied about something he never should have lied about. The whole "I'm ashamed and didn't want my wife finding out about it" was bullshite....Hillary knew Slick would bang a catcher's mitt.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 6:36 am to gthog61
quote:The summary is out there. That will drive news and public opinion. I have a strong suspicion Barr leaned heavily on RR for the summary, if not to author the entire thing. IMO, that is exactly why he's kept RR around.
No way it isn't released by the next dem ag anyway
Let the summary make a couple of rounds of news. Take appropriate time ensuring what of the report can be legally released. Let the summary set public opinion. To Congressional Democrat partisans and their schills, say "Patience Grasshoppers, patience," as public opinion is set in stone. Then release the report.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 6:43 am to MorningWood
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An affair with a staffer is a national security risk. It leaves the president open to the possibility of blackmail.
Plus it is defacto malfeasance for which any other federal supervisor would be fired.
In addition, he encouraged her to lie in a sworn statement. The chief law enforcement officer of the nation should be above that. That is not distinguishable, in my mind, from the conduct that drove Nixon from the White House.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 6:46 am to gthog61
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The results were sold as "disappointing" because the other party usually picks up seats in a 6th year of a president.
There's a case to be made that GWB only won in 2000 because the neverending scandals of the Clinton administration soured people on Gore and made them desperate for change just to stop hearing about it.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 6:47 am to NC_Tigah
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They should release as much of it as can be released. They should release everything not including Grand Jury testimony, classified information, or something which would definitively encroach on Executive Privilege.
Normally I'd agree.
BUT - there are bound to be lots of random allegations that were presented and checked out.
For example, Mueller gets a person saying he has iron clad evidence that Trump had colluded with Putin - so Mueller calls him in for an interview. Turns out that the guy says he saw Trump fuking a goat provided by the Russian KGB. Mueller tells him to get the hell out of here.
NOW - let noNadler and Shiftf and Swallowall get that information and claim that "MUELLER DIDN'T CHECK THIS ONE OUT COMPLETELY!!!!"
And awaaaay we go with bestiality allegations along with a flood of #metoo idiots who claim they saw the same thing too!!! - weeks of House Judiciary/Oversight hearings with the mass media outting out every mental image of Trump fricking a goat they can dredge up -
NOTHING that was not found to be indictable should be released.
NOW - since the whole thing was shown to be a FARCE from its inception, it is NECESSARY to find out how this disaster was ever launched. Heads must roll.
And every congressman who claimed they had "solid evidence" should be forced to present that evidence for examination - and their motives for making the claim should be fleshed out.
It's one thing to lie out on the campaign trail. But when you lie in the process of 'pursuing justice' that should be treated harshly - and there was a whole bunch of that 'false testimony' going on.
Skiff's only defense would have to be that "I was only campaigning for re-election - nothing I said should have been believed in the first place"
Posted on 3/25/19 at 6:53 am to Ace Midnight
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An affair with a staffer is a national security risk. It leaves the president open to the possibility of blackmail.
Plus it is defacto malfeasance for which any other federal supervisor would be fired.
In addition, he encouraged her to lie in a sworn statement. The chief law enforcement officer of the nation should be above that. That is not distinguishable, in my mind, from the conduct that drove Nixon from the White House.
exactly /\
Plus it was activity conduced while in office - not during the campaign or in his prior life - this occurred while he was the sitting POTUS.
The very idea of 'creating a hostile atmosphere' is exemplified by this = it was widely known that if you didn't suck Clinton's dick you had no chance of being treated favorably - but if you did suck his dick you would be given choice assignments and immediate gratification.
The perjury is the crime here.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 6:54 am to Sentrius
The Dems just want more material to distort. Plausible but not probable is their game.
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