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The ACA is Working

Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:40 am
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21857 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:40 am
LINK

The uninsured rate is at record lows:


This decline is especially pronounced among the poor:

This rise in insured individuals is not leading to fewer people being able to see a doctor:

Hospitals in states that expanded Medicaid are having less uncompensated care, which will lower costs further (as well as reduced readmissions and HAIs):

Health spending as a share of GDP has gone down faster than was predicted:

Growth in per-enrollee spending by private health plans has slowed dramatically. Medicare has seen a DECREASE in per-enrollee spending, largely driven by reforms from the ACA:

Employer-based premium growth has also slowed:

quote:

Republicans have promised to give Americans a health insurance system better than the Affordable Care Act’s and at lower cost. This is almost surely a chimera; no plan that the GOP has considered would expand coverage beyond the Affordable Care Act. To the extent that the plans would reduce costs, they would do so by relieving the federal government of responsibility for paying for coverage and placing it even more heavily on the shoulders of individuals and families. That’s not lowering costs; it’s just shifting them to those least able to pay. The fact that the GOP will have to face is that bringing healthcare to more Americans costs money. Taking it away from millions of Americans will cost money, too.

Yet the GOP pledges to overturn all that. The question the party never has found an answer to is: If this is what a failure looks like, how would it define a success?

Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23110 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:42 am to
No it isn't.

/thread
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45786 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:42 am to
Depends on your definition of "working"...
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
72912 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:42 am to
Just stop bro
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120106 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:43 am to
Welfare is "working"
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21857 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Depends on your definition of "working"...


The data posted above are a good start to any rational definition.

More people are insured, costs are decreasing (or increasing at a slower rate), and there doesn't appear to be any adverse effects on access to physicians.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
39879 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:44 am to
Do those numbers include the theft of the Middle Class?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21857 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Do those numbers include the theft of the Middle Class?


Define theft, and define middle class. They clearly define what they include.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:45 am to
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Hospital operating costs? 5%? You realize Hospitals clear 20% profit margins, right?

Funny how making it illegal to not have something will force more people to have it. When you have to choose between food and healthcare, sure is nice that the government makes that choice for you huh?
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12288 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:45 am to
I'm sure it works out for some but my insurance has gone 842 to 1315 in 4/5 years for a family of four..biggest jump this past year has me shopping with little luck..
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48806 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:45 am to
It's over get over it, we won you lost
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Welfare is "working"


fricking this
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29401 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:45 am to
quote:

The uninsured rate is at record lows: 
And premiums and deductibles are at record highs.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15828 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:46 am to
A lot of people struggling to respond to these figures.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Republicans have promised to give Americans a health insurance system better than the Affordable Care Act’s and at lower cost. This is almost surely a chimera; no plan that the GOP has considered would expand coverage beyond the Affordable Care Act. To the extent that the plans would reduce costs, they would do so by relieving the federal government of responsibility for paying for coverage and placing it even more heavily on the shoulders of individuals and families. That’s not lowering costs; it’s just shifting them to those least able to pay.


Both parties have been fricking over those least able to pay since 1980 or so. It is why the Democratic Party is basically destroyed. Nothing separates their actions from those of the GOP who have been for fricking over those least able to pay since about 1945. Many of FDR’s New Deal programs had at least some bipartisan support. Since then the GOP has been for basically for doing as little good as possible in the USA.

Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:46 am to
The ACA is dead in 15 days.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21857 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:46 am to
quote:

I'm sure it works out for some but my insurance has gone 842 to 1315 in 4/5 years for a family of four..biggest jump this past year has me shopping with little luck..


What changes do you think would help out your specific situation? A public option? More insurers operating within your state? Higher subsidies? A chance to buy a plan with less coverage? Others?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21857 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:47 am to
quote:

A lot of people struggling to respond to these figures.


Half of them don't understand them, and the ones that do know better than to try.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
39879 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:47 am to
All I could see in your charts in terms of thresholds was the federal poverty level. Which is less than 30k.

Middle class would be mean-income (55k?) to upper (lets say 115k).

So yeah go take a poll on the OT and they will emphatically let you know how much their premiums have gone up over the past 2 years.

THIS IS A HUGE MONEY TRANSFER EVENT AND YOU KNOW IT.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67511 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:48 am to
Keep polishing that turd with cherry-picked data.
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