re: The ACA: 7 Years Later

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The problem is the cost that should really matter are the cost of the people that are actually paying for their insurance and not having it subsidized.

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That's 3% of the population. Why not help that 3% instead of fricking over 100% as Republicans want to do?

That's a shite load of fake news.

frick you and Obama

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Who pays for it?

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Taxes on the rich, medical device companies, insurance companies, tanning salons.

Well hell, we don't have a healthcare problem. Glad to know that. Now we can concentrate on Climate Change. Going fishing.

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for people like me, yes they are

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If you're telling the truth, you're part of the 3% of the population experiencing these spikes.

I'm sorry that you're not able to get better insurance from your employer - maybe take it up with them?

Good god you are just silly

There are not enough "rich" and tanning salons to pay for that.

How many times over do liberals spend the taxes on the "rich"?

How does one talk to someone who is innumerate?

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you're part of the 3% of the population experiencing these spikes.

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Or you're in denial because you and your leaches that can't pull your head out of arse long enough to see actual truth and not what your almighty leaders tell you. Again, eat a dick.

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There's no need to refute what you said. It wasn't accurate, won't be accurate, and isn't germane to the discussion.

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Wrong. You cite data that supports your conclusions and ignore the rest. That's called cherry-picking.

There it is! There's the lie that Dems love to love:

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Premium increases were largely a one-time adjustment,

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What about the skyrocketing deductblies? If your healthcare tax is so great, why do you continue to leave out the ded?

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What about the skyrocketing deductblies? If your healthcare tax is so great, why do you continue to leave out the ded?

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I really don't want to get dragged into this because I have experienced how it goes on this board, but it should be known that both parties have embraced the idea that one way to control costs is by pushing people into higher deductible plans because it makes people consume less healthcare. Republicans are in fact even bigger proponents of this and part of the logic behind the Medicaid cuts is predicated on this idea.

There are some obvious flaws with that notion that could fill up pages and I agree with them, but the crux is that both parties seem open to higher deductibles as a cost saver on the government side of the balance sheet AND private industry has too. Employers that also have been moving toward higher deductible plans for a while now. The Democrats though have wanted to provide a buffer on that much more then the Republicans have been wanting. Which is part of the current impasse in health care politics. Which centers around how much people should have to pay out of pocket for their care and how that should be structured.

And it is true healthcare insurance cost has slowed overall, but the problem is that has not been passed on to consumers in the employee market. Which is why I think so many people do not see what wonks have claimed to be happening
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