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The abuse of the 14th amendment
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:15 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:15 am
Tucker last night inspired this thread.
We all know, or should know, that the 14th amendment was written SOLELY to deal with slaves and their children so IRL it's a dead amendment meaning it shouldn't be applied to anything today.
Should Trump write an EO "stripping" anchor babies, regardless of where they're from, from their automatic faux "citizenship'?
We all know, or should know, that the 14th amendment was written SOLELY to deal with slaves and their children so IRL it's a dead amendment meaning it shouldn't be applied to anything today.
Should Trump write an EO "stripping" anchor babies, regardless of where they're from, from their automatic faux "citizenship'?
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:21 am to Wtodd
No, but I like bringing up the slave issue about the 14th when leftwits bring up muskets when they talk about the 2nd. They generally shut up after that.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:23 am to Wtodd
The second amendment was only written to protect us against the government. Since that hasn’t happened, let’s kill it too.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:23 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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They generally shut up after that
Really?? I may have to try that bc I can't get the little shits to STFU at all
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:24 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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No
Why? Seriously....why shouldn't we make everyone obey the law....all laws.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:27 am to Wtodd
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Should Trump write an EO "stripping" anchor babies, regardless of where they're from, from their automatic faux "citizenship'?
Unconstitutional. Question is moot.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:29 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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They generally shut up after that.
Liberals?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:30 am to ILeaveAtHalftime
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Unconstitutional.
What if granting automatic citizenship under the 14th is unconstitutional?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:35 am to Wtodd
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Really?? I may have to try that bc I can't get the little shits to STFU at all
I'll rephrase: They stammer and stutter long enough for me to get away from them to do more important things.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:49 am to Wtodd
There was a segment on NPR when the immigration ban was in limbo in the courts, and the people "stranded" in route to the US.
One was some woman, bless her heart, from one of the banned countries, who wanted to be with her family....when birthing her child. Convenient eh. She was bitching up a storm about how her child would be born in some shithole instead of the US. I puked.
One was some woman, bless her heart, from one of the banned countries, who wanted to be with her family....when birthing her child. Convenient eh. She was bitching up a storm about how her child would be born in some shithole instead of the US. I puked.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:49 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:Better is bringing up that the founders didn't know we would have telephones, the internet, and television. . .therefore Free Speech and Press should not apply.
No, but I like bringing up the slave issue about the 14th when leftwits bring up muskets when they talk about the 2nd.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:53 am to Wtodd
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Should Trump write an EO "stripping" anchor babies
It would undoubtedly go to the SCOTUS. Perhaps he should preface his EO with his interpretation of the 14th saying it only applied to the recently freed slaves and their progeny.
Make the SCOTUS deal with that argument directly = screw 'stare decisis' = rule by constitution not flawed prior mistakes.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:55 am to DEG
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The second amendment was only written to protect us against the government. Since that hasn’t happened, let’s kill it too.
What?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:55 am to Roaad
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Better is bringing up that the founders didn't know we would have telephones, the internet, and television. . .therefore Free Speech and Press should not apply.
That is always my first response - but I don't have many IRL people who want to debate the issue with me anymore.
And I don't often engage in these silly spats on the innerwebs.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:56 am to Jcorye1
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quote:
The second amendment was only written to protect us against the government. Since that hasn’t happened, let’s kill it too.
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What?
You are witnessing the vacuity of the left-wing radical mental process.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:02 am to DEG
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The second amendment was only written to protect us against the government. Since that hasn’t happened, let’s kill it too.
it's happening as we type, patriot Trump is the only thing standing in the way of true tyranny in this country
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:04 am to Wtodd
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What if granting automatic citizenship under the 14th is unconstitutional?
The exclusive arbiter of that decision (SCOTUS) has already decided that it is.
Congress may change the amendment if they so choose and it’s agreed upon by the states.
Either way, there is absolutely nothing that the executive can do about it other than challenging the law in court. And the odds SCOTUS, or any of the Circuits, takes that case after a district judge slaps it out of his courtroom are slim to zero.
Any EO doing what OP describes would be injoined before POTUS’s ink dried.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 7:09 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:13 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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I'll rephrase: They stammer and stutter long enough for me to get away from them to do more important things.
Close enough
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:13 am to Wtodd
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Why? Seriously....why shouldn't we make everyone obey the law....all laws.
The 14th Amendment is the law, genius.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:14 am to Wtodd
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What if granting automatic citizenship under the 14th is unconstitutional?
It’s not.
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