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UGATiger26
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The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
#1: First off, simply the notion that people can "feel like" they are supposed to be a different gender is asinine.

I think when most people hear the explanation that "John feels as if he should be a girl" they shrug and say "Oh, well I guess that makes sense."

But no, it really doesn't make sense at all. How do you know what a girl should feel like? How do you know what a boy should feel like? How do you know what a squirrel should feel like? You only live out ONE life experience. The only "feeling" you have to work off is your own as an individual human being. I am a man, and I can honestly say that I still have no idea what being a man "feels like" because I have no other experience to compare and contrast it with. It's like a fish saying it "feels like" it should be a bird. A fish has no damn clue what it's like to not be surrounded by water, primarily because it couldn't even explain what water is. It's the only reality it knows.

#2: The general concept of genders and gender roles.

Progressives have long been attempting to force down our throats that there are little to no inherent differences between genders, and that "gender-specific" phenomena like boys wearing jeans while playing with toy weapons and girls wearing dresses while playing with dolls are simply social constructs. Well, if that's the case, isn't transgenderism a complete slap in the face to this idea??!! To say that one is attracted to feminine clothes, objects, and activities and, therefore, should be a woman is CONFIRMING that there are inherent differences between genders.

If anything, progressives should be striving to eliminate the concept of gender altogether. Instead, they're running in the opposite direction and trying to create more genders than we can possibly keep up with.

#3: Trangenderism is 100% at odds with what progressives say about fat people.

The negative stigma around being fat is what some consider to be next frontier of progressivism. But what progressives say about fat people (i.e. "you are beautiful/big is beautiful/don't change") is a complete contradiction of their stance on transgenderism, a phenomenon which - taken to it's most extreme - requires vast amounts of altering your physical appearance and hormonal balance.

If a boy "feels like a girl," progressives say they shouldn't be afraid to drastically alter their appearance to conform to what a girl is supposed to be/look like.

But if someone is fat, progressives say they shouldn't feel pressured to change to conform to what is supposed to be healthy.

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The Mad Fratter
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
Every issue they support pokes holes in their logic for supporting another asinine issue. The mental gymnastics displayed by prog socialists to justify their fricked up beliefs are impressive. A


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GumboPot
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
#4 Despite all the hormone therapy, gender reassignment surgery and make up, you are still the gender defined by your chromosomes.

A person with XX chromosomes with a transgender mental disorder is simply a masculinized female.

A person with XY chromosomes with a transgender mental disorder is simply a feminized male.


TigerTattle
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)

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Scientists observed increased blood flow in women to their prefrontal cortexes (the region that handles impulse control and concentration) and limbic areas (the mood and emotion managers), while men's visual and coordination centers lit up more than women's.


The above was in an article I read this morning. TBH, I was thinking, well, duh, I could have guessed that.

But it would be interesting to see info like this on brain activity in transgenders.

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ibleedprplngld
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
The biggest issue with the progressive movement as a whole is the complete hypocrisy of everything they represent.

"Don't change if you're fat, your beautiful, but if you think you're a girl, go lop off your penis and take a bunch of hormones.!"

"Free speech is a right for everyone and should never be suppressed! frick that guy we don't agree with, let's riot in the streets so he can't speak!"

There are examples of this in every progressive view. Their views are entirely predicated on the whims of their own feelings and not rooted in logic what so ever. Oh, and if you disagree with them, you're a racist, sexist, homophobic, bigot!


RIPMachoMan
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
You spent a lot of time thinking about this. Are you sure you're not hiding/fighting some personal secret?

Just kidding. I don't understand why people care so much. By continuing to post arguments against, your actually adding fuel to their movement for validity.
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SidewalkDawg
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
They've jumped the shark with Transgenderism and it's pretty obvious.

With gays, there was a legit civil rights issue in that civil unions were denied to them.

What rights are denied transgenders? There is nothing that a transgendered person can't do that would amount to a restriction on their civil rights.

This is all about forcing acceptance and normalization. It's a sham.


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FooManChoo
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
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I don't understand why people care so much.
Because like the homosexual issue, liberals are pushing acceptance of it on people who don't think it should be accepted. Transgenderism is a mental illness and it is a terrible thing to not treat it as such but to encourage people to not seek help for it but to give in to that delusion.


UGATiger26
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
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I don't understand why people care so much.


When transgenderism was restricted to isolated adults wanting to do their own thing, I didn't care.

Now it's being shoved down the throats of young kids who are unable to defend themselves from wingbat progressive parents and teachers. I care about that.


SidewalkDawg
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
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When transgenderism was restricted to isolated adults wanting to do their own thing, I didn't care.

Now it's being shoved down the throats of young kids who are unable to defend themselves from wingbat progressive parents and teachers. I care about that.


Exactly, if you want to be a tranny, by all means go ahead and cut of your dick and wear dresses. I don't give a shite.

I'm not paying for it and I'm not going to accept you as a normal sane person.

Freedom.


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Salmon
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
your points #1 and #3 really don't make that much sense and can be explained away pretty easily

and for #2

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progressives should be striving to eliminate the concept of gender altogether


this is 100% the end goal


alphaandomega
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
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The biggest issue with the progressive movement as a whole is the complete hypocrisy of everything they represent.

"Don't change if you're fat, your beautiful, but if you think you're a girl, go lop off your penis and take a bunch of hormones.!"

"Free speech is a right for everyone and should never be suppressed! frick that guy we don't agree with, let's riot in the streets so he can't speak!"

There are examples of this in every progressive view. Their views are entirely predicated on the whims of their own feelings and not rooted in logic what so ever. Oh, and if you disagree with them, you're a racist, sexist, homophobic, bigot!



You should add to your list the crazy notion that a lot of gay progressives have. That being Islam. They think we should love Islam and gay people. But Islam despises gay people, to the point of either imprisoning (if they are lucky) to tossing them off a building (if they are not lucky).



alphaandomega
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
quote:

The biggest issue with the progressive movement as a whole is the complete hypocrisy of everything they represent.

"Don't change if you're fat, your beautiful, but if you think you're a girl, go lop off your penis and take a bunch of hormones.!"

"Free speech is a right for everyone and should never be suppressed! frick that guy we don't agree with, let's riot in the streets so he can't speak!"

There are examples of this in every progressive view. Their views are entirely predicated on the whims of their own feelings and not rooted in logic what so ever. Oh, and if you disagree with them, you're a racist, sexist, homophobic, bigot!



You should add to your list the crazy notion that a lot of gay progressives have. That being Islam. They think we should love Islam and gay people. But Islam despises gay people, to the point of either imprisoning (if they are lucky) to tossing them off a building (if they are not lucky).



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HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
Well , we are talking about the same group of retards who believe that it is both perfectly reasonable to expect people to present ID, pay hundreds of dollars, AND pass a background check to have their 2nd Amendment rights, but a complete violation of the Constitution to charge someone $10 every four years for a state ID that they will then have to show to vote.

I mean you have to be truly retarded to hold that position.



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TBoy
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
Of course it is illogical. But why would you want to use the power of the state to pick on them? What kind of sick person tries to whip up folks to put these people down? Leave them alone. That is the only logical course of action.


UGATiger26
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
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your points #1 and #3 really don't make that much sense and can be explained away pretty easily


#1 makes perfect sense. You cannot explain to me what it "feels like" to be a girl or a boy. Therefore, there is no basis for changing your gender because you "feel like" the opposite gender.

The best you can do is to say that you feel attracted to things that the opposite gender seems to be attracted to, but that now puts us in point #2. Or I suppose you could just be homosexual and be attracted to the sex that the opposite gender is attracted to, but that's another topic.

I agree that #3 can be weaseled out of, but it's still fairly hypocritical to hold those positions on gender and obesity UNLESS you are willing to tell a potential transgender that "You don't need to change who you are. You are beautiful either way." I'd at least respect the intellectual consistency of a progressive who said as much.

BTW:

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progressives should be striving to eliminate the concept of gender altogether

this is 100% the end goal


Oh, is it?

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ILeaveAtHalftime
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
Thier entire philosophy is built on raw emotion and instant response. Your logic and reasoning has no place here


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CptBengal
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
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#3 really don't make that much sense and can be explained away pretty easily


cant wait to see you try this....

go ahead, mental midget, try and explain. We'll all wait.


Wolfhound45
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
Nothing is illogical to them. Except conservatism.


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HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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re: The 3 reasons progressives should realize transgenderism is illogical (even to them)
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Of course it is illogical. But why would you want to use the power of the state to pick on them? What kind of sick person tries to whip up folks to put these people down? Leave them alone. That is the only logical course of action.


The answer is because they are putting children as young as 4 and 5 years old on medications that we don't even fully understand the effects of yet because "those kids feel they were born the wrong gender" I mean that's a serious fricking concern. I don't care if an adult wants to chop his dick off, load up on estrogen and call himself a woman. Just the same as I don't really care if a pro baseball player wants to load up on steroids so he can hit 200 homeruns a year. Doesn't matter to me, but it does matter to me when the 14 year old kid who isn't mentally capable of reasoning through the decision tree is taking such drugs because that's the only way to compete when everyone else is doing it.

These folks are mentally ill and isn't the government supposed to prevent the mentally ill from harming themselves?


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