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Tech Workers Rejoice: Trump Admin Tightens H-1B Guidelines
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:41 pm
Although this will infuriate a few tech executives....
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Trump Admin Tightens H-1B Guidelines to Keep American Workers from Being Replaced by Foreign Labor
Brietbart
A new directive by President Trump’s administration seeks to prevent American workers from being replaced by foreign labor by making it increasingly difficult for foreign nationals to continuingly have their guest worker visas renewed.
A memo issued by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) agency, is just one step in pro-American worker reforms occurring in the H-1B visa industry.
Every year, more than 100,000 foreign workers are brought to the U.S. on the H-1B visa and are allowed to stay for up to six years. That number has ballooned to potentially hundreds of thousands each year, as universities and non-profits are exempt from the cap. With more entering the U.S. through the visa, Americans are often replaced and forced to train their foreign replacements.
Under new guidelines, though, USCIS will vet foreign workers currently holding U.S. jobs as if they were first-time applicants, a departure from previous agency practices where foreign workers already in the U.S. were readily given green lights to remain in the U.S.
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:51 pm to goofball
Pretty huge news in my industry. There is an expectation that long overdue reform will come very soon, and it will probably be at least somewhat painful to companies that are not prepared for it.
I hear that some employers are using Trump's election to strike a bit more fear among their H1B employees as well when its time for raises.
I hear that some employers are using Trump's election to strike a bit more fear among their H1B employees as well when its time for raises.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:00 pm to goofball
No way this can backfire!
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:04 pm to BigJim
Toronto is looking much better for Amazon HQ2.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:08 pm to Anfield Road
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Toronto is looking much better for Amazon HQ2.
So they can have even more trouble obtaining work visas than in the US?
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:09 pm to dewster
I'm not sure what you are referring to. Skilled worker visas are way easier to obtain in Canada than in the US.
I know for a fact that Microsoft sends some foreign workers to their Vancouver office whenever they miss out on the H1B lottery.
I know for a fact that Microsoft sends some foreign workers to their Vancouver office whenever they miss out on the H1B lottery.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:11 pm to goofball
Why do tech workers hate poor peoples of color?!
Sound like a bunch of xenophobic racists to me.
Sound like a bunch of xenophobic racists to me.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:13 pm to Anfield Road
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I'm not sure what you are referring to. Skilled worker visas are way easier to obtain in Canada than in the US.
Unless you are a US citizen, that is completely untrue. I'm typing this from an office bldg in Toronto after fighting for months to get colleagues here from India and Turkey who will ultimately end up staying in California. We have historically had much more trouble with Canada than the US.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:16 pm to goofball
Wow. Now that trump is taking away their ability to get visas, more people will be forced to cross the rio grande to get here. War on Latinos
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:18 pm to el Gaucho
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Wow. Now that trump is taking away their ability to get visas, more people will be forced to cross the rio grande to get here. War on Latinos
And a lot of employers will be forced to develop talent domestically or GTFO.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:22 pm to dewster
I'm not sure what program you tried to bring them under, but an engineer that has a Canadian job offer is pretty much guaranteed an immigrant visa (Canadian green card equivalent, way better than H-1B nonimmigrant work visa) under the Federal Skilled Worker Express Entry program. I was former H-1B, and you're at the mercy of the lottery (less than a 40% chance of obtainining an H-1B) as an H-1B applicant. Heck, you can sponsor yourself in Canada for a green card equivalent as long as you have enough points (whereas you'd have to be sponsored by the employer in the US to obtain a green card). Granted, the self sponsorship takes over 2.5 years vs. 6 months for Express Entry. I've known Indians who applied to and received Canadian permanent residency as they didn't want to wait over 10 years to wait for their green card.
EDIT: If you're transferring colleagues from India and Turkey, more than likely you are using an L-1 Visa (for intra-company transfers). If that's the case, there is no quota. I would agree that would be easier than bringing them over on an H-1B or a Canadian work visa.
EDIT: If you're transferring colleagues from India and Turkey, more than likely you are using an L-1 Visa (for intra-company transfers). If that's the case, there is no quota. I would agree that would be easier than bringing them over on an H-1B or a Canadian work visa.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:44 pm to goofball
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And a lot of employers will be forced to develop talent domestically or GTFO.
That develop talent domestically sounds good, but tell me more about this GTFO option?
Nah, companies would never shift operations overseas hoping to save money.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:48 pm to goofball
I'm confused as to why Rs think that limiting a business's ability to hire the best worker possible for the least amount of money possible is "good" for anyone. Same people that fight for right-to-work are forcing businesses to hire Americans. Ironic.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:54 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I'm confused as to why Rs think that limiting a business's ability to hire the best worker possible
Nations. Borders. Citizenship. These words mean things.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:14 pm to Stingray
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Nations. Borders. Citizenship. These words mean things.
They mean you don't have a coherent economic argument and fall back on cliches.
Why do you need a $15 minimum wage? Fairness. Living wage. Equality. These words mean things.
Same focus-on-the-result-without-worrying-about-consequences mindset of a liberal.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:23 pm to BigJim
Why are you for stealing the resources of a developing nation keeping them uneducated and poor?
Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:31 pm to BaylorTiger
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Why are you for stealing the resources of a developing nation keeping them uneducated and poor?
Wow, you sound like a liberal. "Don't open those factories! You will be exploiting the workers!"
Look it isn't about what I want. There are laws of supply and demand. Screw with them at the expense of the economy. If companies are importing labor because there is a shortage, cutting off the labor won't necessarily mean "good things" for Americans.
A few Americans could see higher wages. A few more could get hired (though are there really many tech workers without jobs for long?)
But it could mean companies shift their strategy and move operations oversees. Almost certain not the whole company. Google isn't leaving. But certain portions almost certainly will.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:34 pm to BaylorTiger
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They mean you don't have a coherent economic argument and fall back on cliches.
You're right, gov't restrictions such as tariffs artificially shift the supply/demand price side of business decisions and ultimately distort profitability of available resources preventing an economy from operating efficiently as possible with the natural resources available.
Importing cheap labor through government programs does just that and diverts natural resources from what we are most efficient at.
These positions should not exist in the US if they are cheaper to perform in India, they hold the competitive advantage and the market would naturally gravitate to the cheaper product.
However, through government intervention we artificially create an advantage that does not exist which diverts our resources away from the opportunities that we do hold advantages in.
As such, not only do we hinder the long term growth of our economy but also the direction in which it should be growing given its natural efficiencies.
EDIT: [redacted]
EDIT2: Who am I kidding, you probably don't interact with anyone actually knowledgeable of economics outside of some fly-by political huffington post fox news understanding. You probably look at economics as I look at politics, entertainment. Who am I to attack you for that.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:43 pm to goofball
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Trump Admin Tightens H-1B Guidelines to Keep American Workers from Being Replaced by Foreign Labor
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:51 pm to BaylorTiger
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EDIT: OH GOD, I see you're spewing more high school level economic understating...do yourself a favor, in the real world, with real people, where people can actually identify who you are...don't open your mouth about economics.
Yeah, you got me and my high school level understanding of economics. quote:
Importing cheap labor through government programs does just that and diverts natural resources from what we are most efficient at.
You see importing cheap labor as a government program. I think it is more accurately seen as a removal of a barrier that government imposed in the first place. Thus labor restrictions are closer to tariffs in their effect.
Thus someone who is against tariffs would be against labor restricts. Generally speaking, it would depend on the specific policy of course.
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