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re: Taiwan has nukes; game changer in dealing with China
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:36 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:36 am to OMLandshark
If true, this would be huge news. I will believe it when it is officially confirmed. If somehow (highly doubtful) they got them without US confirmation the Biden regime would try to disarm them.
We talked Ukraine out of theirs when the Soviet Union fell with a promise to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine. I bet Ukraine regrets that decision.
We talked Ukraine out of theirs when the Soviet Union fell with a promise to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine. I bet Ukraine regrets that decision.
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:37 am to Wtodd
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Taiwan has nukes; game changer in dealing with China
1) Taiwan does NOT have nuclear weapons.
2) if Taiwan does have Nukes, their President would be singing it from every rooftop.
3) Taiwan had a short lived nuclear weapons program, but it was scrapped and never amounted to success.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:39 am to AU86
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If true, this would be huge news. I will believe it when it is officially confirmed. If somehow (highly doubtful) they got them without US confirmation the Biden regime would try to disarm them.
China would have noticed it if they created it. It’s possible maybe Nixon smuggled one over there, but that would risk World War III. I don’t see almost any reason how they could actually have a nuke.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:43 am to OMLandshark
Get crazier with it. Taiwan has some South African nukes from them getting rid of their program as Apartheid came to a head.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:49 am to AU86
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If true, this would be huge news. I will believe it when it is officially confirmed.
How long did it take Israel to confirm they had them even tho it was the worst kept secret on Earth?
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If somehow (highly doubtful) they got them without US
Where did Israel get theirs?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:49 am to thrillachinchilla
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Get crazier with it. Taiwan has some South African nukes from them getting rid of their program as Apartheid came to a head.
That would be crazy if true. Nelson Mandela wiping out the commies.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:51 am to OMLandshark
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China would have noticed it if they created it. It’s possible maybe Nixon smuggled one over there, but that would risk World War III. I don’t see almost any reason how they could actually have a nuke.
Apparently they did have a program and attempted to acquire nukes at some point...
NTI
I could see it being a bluff or I could see it as having had for some time as well...
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:52 am to Wtodd
How long did India have theirs before they revealed it to the world in the 90s?
I know the US got caught flat footed on that one and the spies on the ground over there were in deep shite for missing it.
I know the US got caught flat footed on that one and the spies on the ground over there were in deep shite for missing it.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:56 am to teke184
I think you and I (and others) are in agreement that's it's definitely possible they have them. Maybe it was Trump's way of saying "even if I'm not in office you can defend yourself against Chinerman"
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:56 am to OMLandshark
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China would have noticed it if they created it.
This, and China would be raising holy hell from the rooftops. If Taiwan developed or was given the bomb, China would have moved already.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:57 am to teke184
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Nukes aren’t the proper tool to breach the dam.
Bouncing bombs are.
Nukes would vaporize a lot of the water.
And when water starts flowing again. With no dam there....
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 9:58 am
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:57 am to teke184
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I know the US got caught flat footed on that one and the spies on the ground over there were in deep shite for missing it.
China's spies are better than ours, and Taiwan is crawling with them at every level of government and society. China would know and would have thrown a shite fit.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:59 am to Wtodd
Taiwan has capabilities, but Japan has increased their defense budget x10 in the last few years. Look at where Taiwan is positioned. Just 50 miles from the nearest Japanese island of Yoganuni.
2 months ago CCP threatened the Japanese that china would repeatedly nuke Japan if they tried to keep China from "liberating" Taiwan.
Japan in 2 years time has increased not only spending but manufacturing and has added missile-deterrents to nearby islands as well as increasing ground troop training, but preparing their navy.
In the past the CCP has stated they "would never use nuclear arms against a non-nuclear power." Japan doesn't have any nukes.
China really is Asshoe
2 months ago CCP threatened the Japanese that china would repeatedly nuke Japan if they tried to keep China from "liberating" Taiwan.
Japan in 2 years time has increased not only spending but manufacturing and has added missile-deterrents to nearby islands as well as increasing ground troop training, but preparing their navy.
In the past the CCP has stated they "would never use nuclear arms against a non-nuclear power." Japan doesn't have any nukes.
China really is Asshoe
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:59 am to Wtodd
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How long did it take Israel to confirm they had them even tho it was the worst kept secret on Earth?
They don't confirm it.
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Where did Israel get theirs?
The French.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:01 am to Indefatigable
And where would people have gotten these more recently? Pakistan.
A Q Khan was selling tech to all kinds of countries to build this shite until we shut him down in the 2000s IIRC.
A Q Khan was selling tech to all kinds of countries to build this shite until we shut him down in the 2000s IIRC.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:01 am to memphisplaya
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Japan doesn't have any nukes.
They don't have nukes, correct. Their doctrine is instead to have all of the pieces to make one sitting next to each other and ready to go if nukes are needed
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:01 am to Indefatigable
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They don't confirm it.
My point exactly
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The French.
But they were US nukes
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:02 am to teke184
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A Q Khan was selling tech to all kinds of countries to build this shite until we shut him down in the 2000s IIRC.
Taiwan is perhaps one of the last countries on earth that Pakistan would give the bomb to. They are way too far up Beijing's arse for that. They need China for infrastructure investment and as a deterrent for India.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:06 am to Indefatigable
How much of Khan’s work was him doing things for Pakistan and how much was him enriching himself?
Pakistan’s various internal organizations like the ISI are beholden only to themselves, not the political or military leadership.
And who is to say someone else wasn’t positioned as a straw buyer on Taiwan’s behalf?
Pakistan’s various internal organizations like the ISI are beholden only to themselves, not the political or military leadership.
And who is to say someone else wasn’t positioned as a straw buyer on Taiwan’s behalf?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:06 am to Indefatigable
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China's spies are better than ours, and Taiwan is crawling with them at every level of government and society. China would know and would have thrown a shite fit.
True. Global Times (China's english state sponsored propaganda media) was recently claiming that US commandos were in Taiwan. They are raising hell about that claiming it was an invasion of Chinese sovereign territory. They would go ballistic meltdown if nuclear weapons were in Taiwan.
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