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Tactical Chat: How the U.S. Military Uses IRC to Wage War

Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:49 am
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:49 am
I used mirc chat over a few countries in my past, hope nobody finds out!

Despite the U.S. military’s massive spending each year on advanced communications technology, the use of simple text chat or tactical chat has outpaced other systems to become one of the most popular paths for communicating practical information on the battlefield. Though the use of text chat by the U.S. military first began in the early 1990s, in recent years tactical chat has evolved into a “primary ‘comms’ path, having supplanted voice communications as the primary means of common operational picture (COP) updating in support of situational awareness.”

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Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:50 am to
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mirc chat


Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:51 am to
Yup never felt good about a shitty cell phone while flying missions.
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Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:02 pm to
Odd all the howler monkeys don't seem to gaf about mirc chat,
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:03 pm to
Of course they don’t. They haven’t been told to.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:03 pm to
I can tell you guys I know in units with almost no names use Signal a lot.

These are the bearded boogeymen who found Delta a little boring and moved onto other, more special units. Ones that leave regular SF units asking who the frick are those guys.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:04 pm to
Plenty of battlefield chat capabilities still in use.
Posted by BamaScoop
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:05 pm to
Doesn’t it make sense that sometimes information is intentionally leaked? We didn’t all the time in WW II to see how the enemy would react.
Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:21 pm to
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I can tell you guys I know in units with almost no names use Signal a lot.

These are the bearded boogeymen who found Delta a little boring and moved onto other, more special units. Ones that leave regular SF units asking who the frick are those guys.

Wow, you are, like, so, like, cool, man.
Posted by blue_morrison
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:22 pm to
Awful lot of essential systems still running Win 95.

What a throwback
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:23 pm to
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Awful lot of essential systems still running Win 95.

Crazy isn't it?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:24 pm to
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What a throwback

A toughbook, a shitty cell phone, some crap software, get to 30000 feet and chat away lol.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:24 pm to
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These are the bearded boogeymen who found Delta a little boring and moved onto other, more special units. Ones that leave regular SF units asking who the frick are those guys.




Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:45 pm to
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I used mirc chat over a few countries in my past, hope nobody finds out!

Despite the U.S. military’s massive spending each year on advanced communications technology, the use of simple text chat or tactical chat has outpaced other systems to become one of the most popular paths for communicating practical information on the battlefield. Though the use of text chat by the U.S. military first began in the early 1990s, in recent years tactical chat has evolved into a “primary ‘comms’ path, having supplanted voice communications as the primary means of common operational picture (COP) updating in support of situational awareness


Someone correct me if this is wrong - The manuals will tell you that if you are on mIRC or anything like that, on NIPR, it's not secure. In theater, we have NIPR but we're not putting operational mIRC on anything below SIPR, iirc. So, I don't think we can compare Signal to mIRC, especially in this case where Goldberg was receiving notifications. I would guess he's not hooked up to Signal on SIPR. So, I don't think we can compare this situation on Signal to what's done in theater.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:57 pm to
Yeah fair enough, but a junk fricking cell phone on combat missions never gave me warm fuzzys.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:04 pm to
I work in the Defense Industry and almost all of my comms with USSOCOM folks take place on Signal. They are confident in it being secure.

That being said, I had drinks with a NSA guy and his statement was: "If it's transmitted and we want to read it... well... we probably can." I took that to mean they can.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:05 pm to
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I took that to mean they can.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:06 pm to
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Someone correct me if this is wrong - The manuals will tell you that if you are on mIRC or anything like that, on NIPR, it's not secure. In theater, we have NIPR but we're not putting operational mIRC on anything below SIPR, iirc. So, I don't think we can compare Signal to mIRC, especially in this case where Goldberg was receiving notifications. I would guess he's not hooked up to Signal on SIPR. So, I don't think we can compare this situation on Signal to what's done in theater.


You are correct.

The admin should've just come out and owned it, then said they were getting rid of this Biden-era policy. Done and move on.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Wow, you are, like, so, like, cool, man.


No. No I am not. The dudes I’m privileged to hang out with some are. The dudes my son works with are. Hell, even my son is to some extent.

Me? I’m just an old fart who cooks for them on occasion.
Posted by A75CADDY
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 3:07 pm to
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I used mirc chat over a few countries in my past, hope nobody finds out!

Despite the U.S. military’s massive spending each year on advanced communications technology, the use of simple text chat or tactical chat has outpaced other systems to become one of the most popular paths for communicating practical information on the battlefield. Though the use of text chat by the U.S. military first began in the early 1990s, in recent years tactical chat has evolved into a “primary ‘comms’ path, having supplanted voice communications as the primary means of common operational picture (COP) updating in support of situational awareness.”


Only problem is that these folks weren't on the battlefield. They were in a position to communicate from a SCIF and chose to converse about highly sensitive information via a non-secure text group, one of whom was in Moscow at the time. There is a marked difference I'd think. A regular Joe would have been run out of the military on a rope if he'd been caught doing this.
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