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Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:45 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:45 am
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Supreme Court refuses to hear challenge to Arkansas abortion law

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rejecting an appeal from the Planned Parenthood affiliate in Arkansas that asked the court to review an appeals court ruling and reinstate a lower court order that had blocked the law from taking effect.


Fox
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:49 am to
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Planned Parenthood


The organization who claims their primary business is not abortions but prevention, but yet in 2016 PP performed over 300,000 abortions nationwide.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41643 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:51 am to
Good. PP needs to go the way of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17872 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:15 am to
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but yet in 2016 PP performed over 300,000 abortions nationwide.

I imagine that pales compared to number of condoms distributed and birth control scripts written or filled.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41643 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:33 am to
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I imagine that pales compared to number of condoms distributed and birth control scripts written or filled.
"What about the good things Hitler did?"

Yeah, mass murder is cool because they also handed out rubbers.
Posted by darnol91
Member since Jun 2015
749 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:51 am to
Separation of church and state means we shouldnt be legislating morality issues. The conversation shouldnt be whether a fetus is a human or not, it's about women's rights to choose what happens to their body. When you legislate morality all you do is create a black market.

Its not your decision what a woman does to her body, just like its not her decision if you get snipped. While I dont agree with abortion as a whole, I still recognize that it's not my decision, and I shouldnt care, if someone wants to get rid of a fetus. If you want to argue that it's a human, then take it out of the womb and if it survives without life support, then I would classify it as such.

Times are changing and classic conservative religious stances on social issues need to go. Yes, Im socially liberal and fiscally conservative, like many millennials from the south. You cant want small government then complain that we arent legislating enough morality issues, it's counter intuitive and republicans as a whole should do better than this.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:53 am to
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their body
lol
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If you want to argue that it's a human, then take it out of the womb and if it survives without life support, then I would classify it as such.
so you'd agree that any full grown adult that can't survive without life support is no longer human?
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4786 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:54 am to
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Separation of church and state means we shouldnt be legislating morality issues. The conversation shouldnt be whether a fetus is a human or not, it's about women's rights to choose what happens to their body. When you legislate morality all you do is create a black market.

Its not your decision what a woman does to her body, just like its not her decision if you get snipped. While I dont agree with abortion as a whole, I still recognize that it's not my decision, and I shouldnt care, if someone wants to get rid of a fetus. If you want to argue that it's a human, then take it out of the womb and if it survives without life support, then I would classify it as such.

Times are changing and classic conservative religious stances on social issues need to go. Yes, Im socially liberal and fiscally conservative, like many millennials from the south. You cant want small government then complain that we arent legislating enough morality issues, it's counter intuitive and republicans as a whole should do better than this.


I have a feeling if Someone murdered your sisters child, you would have a problem with that loss of life, as should everyone.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73436 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:56 am to
SCOTUS is finally getting back to staying within its limits.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79609 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:00 am to
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Times are changing and classic conservative religious stances on social issues need to go.


And there’s your typical liberal hubris on display.

It’s not God’s duty to keep up with the changing times and morals of mere mortals.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34861 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:00 am to
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If you want to argue that it's a human, then take it out of the womb and if it survives without life support, then I would classify it as such.



I was born pre-mature and had underdeveloped lungs. So, in your opinion, it should have been okay at that point for them to just not plug me up to life support, and let me die? If my mom decided at that point she didn't want me? I mean, by your definition I was not a human. I was out of the womb and could not survive without life support.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 11:01 am
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17126 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:02 am to
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Separation of church and state means we shouldnt be legislating morality issues. The conversation shouldnt be whether a fetus is a human or not, it's about women's rights to choose what happens to their body. When you legislate morality all you do is create a black market.

Its not your decision what a woman does to her body, just like its not her decision if you get snipped. While I dont agree with abortion as a whole, I still recognize that it's not my decision, and I shouldnt care, if someone wants to get rid of a fetus. If you want to argue that it's a human, then take it out of the womb and if it survives without life support, then I would classify it as such.

Times are changing and classic conservative religious stances on social issues need to go. Yes, Im socially liberal and fiscally conservative, like many millennials from the south. You cant want small government then complain that we arent legislating enough morality issues, it's counter intuitive and republicans as a whole should do better than this.


Arkansas is kinda in the middle of the nation. A woman choosing to murder her unborn go North, South, East, or West. She just can't do it in Arkansas. So she still has the choice, murder and see the nation at the same time even!
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34861 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:03 am to
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Times are changing and classic conservative religious stances on social issues need to go


Cool. There are plenty of other reasons to be against abortion.

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Im socially liberal and fiscally conservative,


Doubtful.

What are your socially liberal stances and your fiscally conservative ones?

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ou cant want small government then complain that we arent legislating enough morality issues


You don't want the government legislating what is and is not murder? The best part of all this, you are condemning others for legislating morality, while you are doing the exact same thing.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 11:08 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66997 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:07 am to
The problem is not one of morality but one of rights. The question is whether the unborn are persons with the rights bestowed upon persons. In the United States, they seem to have an inconsistent pattern of rights.

If they survive to be born, they have inheritance rights that begin at conception.

If their father dies, they inherit rights to bring suits for wrongful death.

If they die due to an accident or murder at the hands of someone other than their mother, that person will be charged with an additional count of manslaughter or murder for killing the unborn.

The unborn have a lot of rights that minor children have, but not all of those rights. Primarily, the one instance in which an unborn child is presumed to have no rights, is when their life is terminated by their mother in the instance of a timely abortion.

The question is not what is moral, but rather, when do rights begin? Should the bundle of rights all be conferred on birth or conception? Should some rights confer on conception and others on birth? It is a difficult legal question that intersects with some major philosophical and scientific questions about when a life becomes a person.

The pro-life crowd believes in protecting the rights of the unborn. The pro-choice crowd believes in protecting the rights of the mother. What makes the abortion debate so difficult is figuring out where the line must be drawn between whose rights, the mother's or the child's, should trump when those rights intersect. We all agree the child has some rights. The pro-life crowd believes children should have more rights, the pro-choice believes mothers should have more rights.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7054 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:09 am to
looking forward to that beautiful day when Justice Ginsberg is aborted.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34861 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:09 am to
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The question is not what is moral, but rather, when do rights begin? Should the bundle of rights all be conferred on birth or conception? Should some rights confer on conception and others on birth? It is a difficult legal question that intersects with some major philosophical and scientific questions about when a life becomes a person.



Bingo, and considering the scientific advancements that have even been made in the last 5 years, that point of the "viability" argument is ever changing.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29645 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:10 am to
common sense restrictions against late term abortions will be coming next!

Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:15 am to
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Separation of church and state means we shouldnt be legislating morality issues. The conversation shouldnt be whether a fetus is a human or not, it's about women's rights to choose what happens to their body. When you legislate morality all you do is create a black market.

Its not your decision what a woman does to her body, just like its not her decision if you get snipped. While I dont agree with abortion as a whole, I still recognize that it's not my decision, and I shouldnt care, if someone wants to get rid of a fetus. If you want to argue that it's a human, then take it out of the womb and if it survives without life support, then I would classify it as such.

Times are changing and classic conservative religious stances on social issues need to go. Yes, Im socially liberal and fiscally conservative, like many millennials from the south. You cant want small government then complain that we arent legislating enough morality issues, it's counter intuitive and republicans as a whole should do better than this.


What a load of drivel.

This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 11:27 am
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19053 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:18 am to
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we shouldnt be legislating morality issues

I'm ok with that. I might enjoy killin' you, rapin' your wife/daughter and takin' your stuff.

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what a woman does to her body

It ain't her body she's killing bright boy.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62368 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:18 am to
The problem with Planned Parenthood is they take public money, that’s a big problem... You may have a right to kill YOUR baby under this current messed up law, but I have a problem paying for it. They say they don’t use that public money for abortions, Id like them to prove that by taking that money away from them; let’s see who’s lying......
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