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Study reveals a $600 billion savings in administrative costs with Medicare for ALL
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:43 pm
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The US spent $817 billion on healthcare administrative costs in 2017, $600 billion more than Canada, which has a smaller population than the US but also has much lower per capita healthcare costs: For example, the US spends an average of $2,479 per patient on admin costs, compared with $551 per capita under Canada's single-payer system, according to a new study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine.
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Researchers conclude that this cost discrepancy is primarily the result of bureaucratic hoops US healthcare providers must jump through to fulfill complex billing arrangements — a defining feature of the US' fractured private health insurance system: An increase in overhead from private insurers caused spending as a percentage of total US healthcare costs to surge from 31% in 1999 to over 34% in 2017, which equates to an added $100 billion burden each year over that same period.
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The US' sky-high healthcare costs are driven in no small part by the oversized admin spending burden private insurance places on hospitals and other providers — and these costs could have negative implications on patient health.
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Nearly half of all US health spending is tied to admin management, per a 2018 JAMA report — and the cost burdens associated with private insurance are being passed along to US consumers, making treatment an unmanageable expense. Patients are coughing up large portions of their budget on health, with the average nonelderly US family spending $8,200 per year on healthcare — or 11% of their income.
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And when we consider that 67% of all US bankruptcies are due to exorbitant healthcare costs, according to a 2019 study from the American Journal of Public Health, it's critical to recognize that the admin burden from private insurers — contributing to a rise in overall healthcare spending by US patients — is at least partially to blame for why health costs have become so unmanageable for so many people.
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And anxieties around the possibility of medically induced poverty are driving poor health habits among US consumers. In a recent Gallup poll, 25% of US consumers said they or a family member had delayed treatment for a serious illness because of the high cost of care.
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Such risky behavior could easily result in a negative feedback loop, whereby patients with otherwise treatable conditions develop worse, more complicated ailments simply due to a lack of financial resources — which is counter-productive to the social determinants of health (SDOH) initiatives we've seen from many of the US' largest private health insurers: Large payers have spent millions on solutions for nonclinical SDOH issues like transportation access, housing insecurity, and social isolation that account for 80% of patient health outcomes.
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I (Zach) believe a shift toward a single-payer Medicare For All system in US healthcare could be a potential balm to the system's current admin cost crisis. And I'm not the only one who recognizes that the US' private insurance system may no longer be sustainable: CEO of insurtech Bind Tony Miller said on a 2019 Health 2.0 panel that, "They see disruption coming, and I think that 'Medicare for All' is evidence that, as a society, we're at a point where this has got to get better or we need a reset."
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Such consumer frustration with the cost and complexity of the US health insurance system is evident in the early polling and fundraising success of Vermont senator and Democratic presidential frontrunner, Bernie Sanders, who counts Medicare For All as a central pillar of his campaign platform.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:45 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Study reveals a $600 billion savings in administrative costs with Medicare for ALL
Another thread for handout seekers .
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:46 pm to tiggerthetooth
Please tell us more about government making administration of complex industries more efficient
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:47 pm to tiggerthetooth
Medicare is the reason our healthcare cost are so high now. Why would we as a society spend less if our corrupt government was buying all of the healthcare?
Can you imagine the lobbying if the government was the only buyer?
It is a crazy idea.
Instead we should convert medicare to a subscription based pricing model and give medicare folks $X to shop competing subscription offers and then pocket any savings. This would make cost completely transparent and easy to shop and would in the long run save us all hundreds of billions. Competition lowers cost every time. Today providers simply lobby for more payments from medicare and that raises all our cost.
Can you imagine the lobbying if the government was the only buyer?
It is a crazy idea.
Instead we should convert medicare to a subscription based pricing model and give medicare folks $X to shop competing subscription offers and then pocket any savings. This would make cost completely transparent and easy to shop and would in the long run save us all hundreds of billions. Competition lowers cost every time. Today providers simply lobby for more payments from medicare and that raises all our cost.
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Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:47 pm to tiggerthetooth
It is a "study" by "researchers" so it must be true.
only thing it needs is a blue ribbon panel of pols who support welfare, er medicare, for all to rubber stamp it
only thing it needs is a blue ribbon panel of pols who support welfare, er medicare, for all to rubber stamp it
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:47 pm to tiggerthetooth
Obama had a study that said average families of 4 would save $2500 a year under Obamacare.
Studies paint whatever rosey picture the commissioner of the study wants it to say.
Studies paint whatever rosey picture the commissioner of the study wants it to say.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:48 pm to tiggerthetooth
Ninja quit trollin with this shite
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:49 pm to tiggerthetooth
Handing the government control of anything is not a way to control costs.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:52 pm to HonoraryCoonass
Yep, my wife works for Disney and our family plan went from the $250-300 range to the $750 range. For lesser coverage. The single biggest issue I had with the Obama admin, as I knew he was pulling one over when he was saying all this BS. The OP points are all the same BS.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:56 pm to tiggerthetooth
But if you go off the deep end, in Belgium you can be euthanized like a dog. AND the doctors won't be prosecuted for any wrongdoing.
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Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:58 pm to TheHarahanian
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Handing the government control of anything is not a way to control costs.
It is funny to me how they rant and rave over the bureaucracy of private health insurance companies while the government is exhibit A of bureaucratic horseshite.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:59 pm to tiggerthetooth
Yay Canada way less people, many more people with limited access to health care ad oh by the way ZERO open boarders.
I had to go to Canada twice in 2019 for business. A massive pain in the arse to get in.
I had to go to Canada twice in 2019 for business. A massive pain in the arse to get in.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:00 pm to Quidam65
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But if you go off the deep end, in Belgium you can be euthanized like a dog. AND the doctors won't be prosecuted for any wrongdoing.
Or how about..."the national health council has decided that firearm ownership is a detriment to the national healthcare system and costs the government money, therefore we must outlaw gun ownership to provide "more equal" healthcare."
Or how about the day when you're in late life and the healthcare system refuses to fund your service because you said something "racist" earlier in life.
Who would even get to decide who is allowed what care?
Do we have to pay for abortions and tranny sex changes?
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:06 pm to tiggerthetooth
I don't know about you but I'd rather not have 90% foreign national doctors when Medicare for all is implemented.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:07 pm to tiggerthetooth
This just in:
"Study reveals those in favor of giving FedGov more authority are ignorant fools!"
Back to Bif for more sports and weather...
"Study reveals those in favor of giving FedGov more authority are ignorant fools!"
Back to Bif for more sports and weather...
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:10 pm to I B Freeman
I went on MediCare in August,along with C plus. The C plus is great, hardly any issues, MediCare on the other hand, was maddening to get started correctly. I can only imagine converting the entire population at one time. Anyone who supports this should be deported to Huwang China
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:14 pm to tiggerthetooth
Business Insider = The Nation Magazine
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:15 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Study reveals a $600 billion savings in administrative costs with Medicare for ALL
So what?
"Administrative costs" How about actual costs of the care?
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 1:17 pm
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