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"Spinning a Crossfire Hurricane" - Andrew McCarthy Rips NY Times "Journalism" Apart
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:15 pm
quote:
Spinning a Crossfire Hurricane: The Times on the FBI’s Trump Investigation
by Andrew C. McCarthy
May 17, 2018
The paper buries more than one lede.
If you’re a fading Baby Boomer, you’re faintly amused that the FBI code-named its Trump-Russia investigation “Crossfire Hurricane.” It’s an homage to the Rolling Stones golden oldie “Jumpin’ Jack Flash” — which, come to think of it, might just be a perfect handle for John Brennan, the former Obama CIA director whose specter hovers over each critical juncture of the case.
The young’uns may not believe it, but back before it was known as “classic rock,” you couldn’t just play your crossfire hurricane on Spotify. You had to spin it. Fittingly, that is exactly what the New York Times has done in Wednesday’s blockbuster report on the origins of the Trump-Russia probe.
The quick take on the 4,100-word opus is that the Gray Lady “buried the lede.” Fair enough: You have to dig pretty deep to find that the FBI ran “at least one government informant” against the Trump campaign — and to note that the Times learned this because “current and former officials” leaked to reporters the same classified information about which, just days ago, the Justice Department shrieked “Extortion!” when Congress asked about it.
But that’s not even the most important of the buried ledes. What the Times story makes explicit, with studious understatement, is that the Obama administration used its counterintelligence powers to investigate the opposition party’s presidential campaign.
That is, there was no criminal predicate to justify an investigation of any Trump-campaign official. So, the FBI did not open a criminal investigation. Instead, the bureau opened a counterintelligence investigation and hoped that evidence of crimes committed by Trump officials would emerge. But it is an abuse of power to use counterintelligence powers, including spying and electronic surveillance, to conduct what is actually a criminal investigation.
The Times barely mentions the word counterintelligence in its saga. That’s not an accident. . . .
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:19 pm to NC_Tigah
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Instead, the bureau opened a counterintelligence investigation and hoped that evidence of crimes committed by Trump officials would emerge. But it is an abuse of power to use counterintelligence powers, including spying and electronic surveillance, to conduct what is actually a criminal investigation.
but its ok because obama and hillary did it
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:19 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:20 pm to NC_Tigah
Read this earlier
Very powerful
I challenge any liberal retard to refute this
“But that’s not even the most important of the buried ledes. What the Times story makes explicit, with studious understatement, is that the Obama administration used its counterintelligence powers to investigate the opposition party’s presidential campaign.
That is, there was no criminal predicate to justify an investigation of any Trump-campaign official. So, the FBI did not open a criminal investigation. Instead, the bureau opened a counterintelligence investigation and hoped that evidence of crimes committed by Trump officials would emerge. But it is an abuse of power to use counterintelligence powers, including spying and electronic surveillance, to conduct what is actually a criminal investigation.”
“The scandal is that the FBI, lacking the incriminating evidence needed to justify opening a criminal investigation of the Trump campaign, decided to open a counterintelligence investigation. With the blessing of the Obama White House, they took the powers that enable our government to spy on foreign adversaries and used them to spy on Americans — Americans who just happened to be their political adversaries.”
“the bureau opened a counterintelligence investigation in the absence of any (a) incriminating evidence, or (b) evidence implicating the Trump campaign in Russian espionage. At the height of the 2016 presidential race, the FBI collaborated with the CIA to probe an American political campaign. They used foreign-intelligence surveillance and informants.
That’s your crossfire hurricane.”
Very powerful
I challenge any liberal retard to refute this
“But that’s not even the most important of the buried ledes. What the Times story makes explicit, with studious understatement, is that the Obama administration used its counterintelligence powers to investigate the opposition party’s presidential campaign.
That is, there was no criminal predicate to justify an investigation of any Trump-campaign official. So, the FBI did not open a criminal investigation. Instead, the bureau opened a counterintelligence investigation and hoped that evidence of crimes committed by Trump officials would emerge. But it is an abuse of power to use counterintelligence powers, including spying and electronic surveillance, to conduct what is actually a criminal investigation.”
“The scandal is that the FBI, lacking the incriminating evidence needed to justify opening a criminal investigation of the Trump campaign, decided to open a counterintelligence investigation. With the blessing of the Obama White House, they took the powers that enable our government to spy on foreign adversaries and used them to spy on Americans — Americans who just happened to be their political adversaries.”
“the bureau opened a counterintelligence investigation in the absence of any (a) incriminating evidence, or (b) evidence implicating the Trump campaign in Russian espionage. At the height of the 2016 presidential race, the FBI collaborated with the CIA to probe an American political campaign. They used foreign-intelligence surveillance and informants.
That’s your crossfire hurricane.”
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
“Obviously, Russia was trying to meddle in the election, mainly through cyber-espionage — hacking. There would, then, have been nothing inappropriate about the FBI’s opening up a counterintelligence investigation against Russia. Indeed, it would have been irresponsible not to do so. That’s what counterintelligence powers are for.
But opening up a counterintelligence investigation against Russia is not the same thing as opening up a counterintelligence investigation against the Trump campaign.”
Refute it Decatur and juicetery
But opening up a counterintelligence investigation against Russia is not the same thing as opening up a counterintelligence investigation against the Trump campaign.”
Refute it Decatur and juicetery
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:27 pm to fjlee90
Can we burn it all down now? Please.
Dismantle the FBI.
Dismantle the DOJ.
Dismantle each and every institution that had anything to do with this. They are rotten to the core.
Burn them all down.
Dismantle the FBI.
Dismantle the DOJ.
Dismantle each and every institution that had anything to do with this. They are rotten to the core.
Burn them all down.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
We are going to have to fight for our freedom. The permanent government workers or the “shadow government “ along with the media and it’s useful idiot progressive liberals will have to be defeated the old fashioned way, by force. Eventually we will have to storm the gates. Trump was our last attempt to be rational and resolve this peacefully and through the ballot box. If that does not work, 5.56x45 will cast many a votes. They will attempt to take away the 2nd amendment and that will be the tripwire
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:36 pm to NC_Tigah
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In the scheme of things, though, the problem is not that the FBI honored its confidentiality obligations in the Trump case while violating them in the Clinton case. The scandal is that the FBI, lacking the incriminating evidence needed to justify opening a criminal investigation of the Trump campaign, decided to open a counterintelligence investigation. With the blessing of the Obama White House, they took the powers that enable our government to spy on foreign adversaries and used them to spy on Americans — Americans who just happened to be their political adversaries.
Therein lies the real scandal. He's right, you know. They had no criminal predicate to open a criminal case against Trump, so they decided to squirm their way around that and open a CI investigation into TRUMP (not Russia).
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:41 pm to NC_Tigah
Nixon was a rank amateur compared to these guys.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:42 pm to johnnydrama
quote:No.
"burying the lead." What's a lede?
Lede and lead are homophones. Lede is the correct term. It refers to the summarizing thought or message in a piece contained in an opening line.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:43 pm to NC_Tigah
WHERE IN THE ACTUAL frick IS SESSIONS
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:45 pm to johnnydrama
I think Wtxtiger was talking about “burying the lead.”
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:When a five eyes diplomat tells you that a campaign member is chattering about hacked emails (which happen to come out right after another campaign advisor publicly says they will), you follow up.
But opening up a counterintelligence investigation against Russia is not the same thing as opening up a counterintelligence investigation against the Trump campaign.”
When you find out he's running around trying to set up meetings between the campaign and Russians, you follow up. When he lies to you about it, you follow up.
McCarthy, until last week, was adamant that there was no "informant" the FBI was using, btw. Completely adamant until the WSJ girl came out with her story. Now he's "destroying" his own reporting.
Have a great evening
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:00 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
The paper buries more than one lede.
I agree with this part.
But McCarthy didn't address the biggest buried lede IMO
quote:
Lastly, there was Mr. Papadopoulos, the young and inexperienced campaign aide whose wine-fueled conversation with the Australian ambassador set off the investigation. Before hacked Democratic emails appeared online, he had seemed to know that Russia had political dirt on Mrs. Clinton. But even if the F.B.I. had wanted to read his emails or intercept his calls, that evidence was not enough to allow it. Many months passed, former officials said, before the F.B.I. uncovered emails linking Mr. Papadopoulos to a Russian intelligence operation.
Uhhhhhh WHAT?!!
This part absolutely justifies a CI investigation.
I'd like to know more about these emails.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:05 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Nixon was a rank amateur compared to these guys.
Well Nixon just had a few of his good ole boys helping him out but this debacle we are presently witnessing has the whole damn government involved - and not in a good way.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:06 pm to JuiceTerry
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JuiceTerry
Keep holding on brotatochip you almost got him
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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That is, there was no criminal predicate to justify an investigation of any Trump-campaign official. So, the FBI did not open a criminal investigation. Instead, the bureau opened a counterintelligence investigation and hoped that evidence of crimes committed by Trump officials would emerge. But it is an abuse of power to use counterintelligence powers, including spying and electronic surveillance, to conduct what is actually a criminal investigation.”
“The scandal is that the FBI, lacking the incriminating evidence needed to justify opening a criminal investigation of the Trump campaign, decided to open a counterintelligence investigation. With the blessing of the Obama White House, they took the powers that enable our government to spy on foreign adversaries and used them to spy on Americans — Americans who just happened to be their political adversaries.”
I think McCarthy is mischaracterizing how CI investigations are scoped these days. All CI investigations can include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed. From Comey's testimony announcing the Russia investigation:
quote:
I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts. As with any counterintelligence investigation, this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed.
quote:
I challenge any liberal retard to refute this
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:33 pm to JuiceTerry
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When a five eyes diplomat tells you that a campaign member is chattering about hacked emails (which happen to come out right after another campaign advisor publicly says they will), you follow up.
Which is exactly why they had Joseph Mifsud slip that tidbit to Papadopoulos. To cover their arse if things went south, which they are.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:01 pm to Lsuchs
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Which is exactly why they had Joseph Mifsud slip that tidbit to Papadopoulos.
Mifsud slipped that tidbit to Papadopoulos in April 2016. Papadopoulos told the Assie official about the email in May 2016. The Assies didn't tell the FBI/U.S. until the end of July 2016 when the emails were released.
That stretched-out time line seems too haphazard to be a well-plotted scheme.
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