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Soy fed LSU student says STEM learning bad, humanities good!

Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:59 pm
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A nationwide push toward STEM education could be a huge mistake. While careers in STEM fields currently boast the highest-paying positions that many companies are scrambling to fill, the educational focus on technical skills over broad-based learning could yield unintended adverse consequences.


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Instead, a degree in the humanities may be worth far greater because it teaches abstract logic rather than concrete skills. Nontechnical skills are harder to automate. Thus, choosing a degree in the humanities may be worth far more in the future when tech companies begin looking to hire outside of computer science.


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Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12507 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:02 pm to
And that’s how people run up 100k of loans and work in a coffee shop too.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57128 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:05 pm to
I have a degree in "humanities" and had to go back to school to learn accounting in order to get a decent job.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:05 pm to
Well that person is a dumb arse.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94823 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:06 pm to
I think we can automate a Humanities college class pretty easily.

Broadcast one professor spewing bullshite to students in many location, grade based on how much the students kids up to the professor.

Technology thus replaces dozens, of not hundreds, of useless instructors in one fell swoop.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:06 pm to
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a degree in the humanities may be worth far greater because it teaches abstract logic rather than concrete skills.


This statement hasn't been true for at least 20 years.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9255 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:07 pm to
There’s nothing wrong with a humanities-based education. It does not offer the same opportunities out of the gate as STEM backgrounds do, but if you’re talented and you work hard, you can make money and be happy all the same.

I don’t buy the cookie-cutter this-degree-is-better-than-that-degree bullshite, from either side of this argument.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33850 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:08 pm to
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Instead, a degree in the humanities may be worth far greater because it teaches abstract logic rather than concrete skills. Nontechnical skills are harder to automate.


He's actually not completely wrong here, though. He's just going about it wrong and humanities is not where the jobs will be.

It's the general labor jobs that are going to be safer from automation more than the STEM fields.

ETA: for example, an accountant can be replaced by a computer a lot faster than a plumber ever will
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 2:10 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94823 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:08 pm to
I’ll give dumbass partial credit...

Tech companies DO like it when their employees have some classes or a minor outside of Computer Science or MIS/ISDS, but they still need to know their shite.

Woman’s Studies doesn’t teach you how to write SQL queries or debug Visual Basic.
Posted by Federal Tiger
Connecticut
Member since Dec 2007
7937 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:08 pm to
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a degree in the humanities may be worth far greater because it teaches abstract logic rather than concrete skills.


So he'll be proficient in Dungeons and Dragons?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:09 pm to
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So he'll be proficient in Dungeons and Dragons?



nope, gender fluid dance theory.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94823 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:10 pm to
“You think a stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main? Alls they know is killing and white uniforms.”
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Instead, a degree in the humanities may be worth far greater because it teaches abstract logic rather than concrete skills.


You see, there was a time when this was, to a degree, true. The humanties and social sciences USED to be where one could get a classical education and learn somewhat more broadly applicable critical and creative thinking skills, as opposed to more technical or professional pursuits which were and continue to be increasingly specialized in medicine, law, business/finance/accounting, engineering or the hard sciences.

But, that hasn't been true in a long time. The humanities and social sciences are absolutely eaten up with political correctness and straight up Marxism. The universities were infiltrated by fellow travelers as far back as the late 50s. By the 1970s they had the public primary and secondary schools. Today, there isn't a single facet of our educational system that remains untainted by their ilk.

As a holder of a social science and professional degree from LSU, my "abstract logic" skills allow me to conclude this guy is a blathering idiot.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Woman’s Studies doesn’t teach you how to write SQL queries or debug Visual Basic.



SQL sucks. The only time I mess with SQL is when I'm crafting SQL injection attacks.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Billionaire entrepreneur Mark Cuban argued that if AI will soon be able to program itself to automate both algorithmic and cognitive tasks predominately within STEM fields, then what good would a degree in these fields be worth if human skills are no longer needed?


Consulting work, dipshit.
Posted by Vanilla Ice
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Member since Apr 2013
5455 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:12 pm to


I spit my drink out at work. This is hilarious


CptBengal, you’re a legend.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94823 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:13 pm to
Doing shite nobody likes is job security.

You’d be surprised how highly COBOL training is despite the Y2K bug being passed since so many legacy systems use some form of it.

Know that and VB pretty much got me hired.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78328 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:13 pm to
My International Politics & Law undergraduate degree from LSU in 1989 has paid off handsomely for me.

#MayISupersizeThatOrderforyou,Sir?
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:16 pm to
Abstract logic over concrete skills
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