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So, what happened to Chevron in this EPA/SCOTUS ruling?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:21 am
The board blew up and I don't want to go through 20 threads to find it. 
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:24 am to finchmeister08
Chevron was ignored.
Court told Congress to do their job.
Court told Congress to do their job.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:39 am to finchmeister08
What’s that term the courts used on 2020 election? Oh yeah- NO STANDING
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:41 am to Nosevens
essentially the major questions doctrine is hardly ever used, but this opinion plus a couple other opinions in this term have shown that this Court is essentially ignoring Chevron.
in invoking the major questions doctrine, one can see that it might be used more often than it has historically instead of Chevron.
in invoking the major questions doctrine, one can see that it might be used more often than it has historically instead of Chevron.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:42 am to finchmeister08
If chevron would’ve been thrown out: “gov agencies cannot create laws”
As it was ruled today: gov agencies can make laws only if they are expressly granted that authority by Congress
Congressional gridlock will ensure that the administrative state remains more constrained.
Not a 52-7 win, but a win.
As it was ruled today: gov agencies can make laws only if they are expressly granted that authority by Congress
Congressional gridlock will ensure that the administrative state remains more constrained.
Not a 52-7 win, but a win.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:45 am to PrecedentedTimes
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If chevron would’ve been thrown out: “gov agencies cannot create laws”
As it was ruled today: gov agencies can make laws only if they are expressly granted that authority by Congress
Congressional gridlock will ensure that the administrative state remains more constrained.
Not a 52-7 win, but a win.
so how does that relate to the ATF and the pistol brace/SBR fiasco that's been going on?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:52 am to finchmeister08
Essentially ignored
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:53 am to PrecedentedTimes
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Not a 52-7 win, but a win.
Here's the sports analogy.
We went up 7-0 with the gun decision.
We went up 14-0 with Dobbs.
We got a pick six to go up 21-0 with the prayer in schools
We just drove the ball 99 yards down the field to score another TD to go up 27-0 with West Virginia. We decided to go for two to rub it in and we missed hoping that the Court would gut Chevron.
Other side drove down and got a field goal with Biden v. Texas.
Its been a good game.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 9:54 am
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:01 am to finchmeister08
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so how does that relate to the ATF and the pistol brace/SBR fiasco that's been going on?
Also, will silencers be dropped from the NFA list?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:06 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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Also, will silencers be dropped from the NFA list?
to my knowledge, silencers were ruled on by congress and signed into law by the president. the ATF didn't have anything to do with that.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:07 am to finchmeister08
quote:This is what I am here for.
so how does that relate to the ATF and the pistol brace/SBR fiasco that's been going on?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:10 am to AlxTgr
Did Congress tell the ATF to regulate pistol braces? No? then they don't have the authority.
Congress can give them that authority, but some loser in an office building can't just come up with rules.
Congress can give them that authority, but some loser in an office building can't just come up with rules.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:10 am to anc
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Congress can give them that authority,
what does that process look like?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:13 am to finchmeister08
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what does that process look like?
It would have to be codified in legislation.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:15 am to anc
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We just drove the ball 99 yards down the field to score another TD to go up 27-0 with West Virginia. We decided to go for two to rub it in and we missed hoping that the Court would gut Chevron. Other side drove down and got a field goal with Biden v. Texas.
Glad we went for 2….my body couldn’t handle another 28-3….
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:17 am to Wally Sparks
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It would have to be codified in legislation.
so a written bill voted on in congress and signed by the president? the normal law passing process?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:27 am to finchmeister08
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so a written bill voted on in congress and signed by the president? the normal law passing process?
Yep. Congress has relied on the alphabet agencies to do their dirty work. Most of this crap wouldn't get out of Congressional committee.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:30 am to anc
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Yep. Congress has relied on the alphabet agencies to do their dirty work. Most of this crap wouldn't get out of Congressional committee.
Is this in any way retroactive? Can policies not expressly delegated to administrative agencies that are now in place be challenged on this basis?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:31 am to fjlee90
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Is this in any way retroactive? Can policies not expressly delegated to administrative agencies that are now in place be challenged on this basis?
If it isn't law...then it isn't law.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:35 am to pankReb
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If it isn't law...then it isn't law.
Time to fire up the lawsuits. My body is ready.
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