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So, what are you going to do?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:31 pm
There’s consensus on (much of) this board that the country has taken giant steps down the wrong path the last six months. A continuation of TDS and impeachment, followed by a ridiculous cratering of the economy because of a bad flu, and now the destruction of cities, pummeling of law enforcement, and silencing of opinions as noncontroversial as “I think the flag should be respected” or “all lives matter” are now worthy of public flogging and maybe the loss of your job.
The Left has thought/strategized circles around us, and let’s be big boys and girls about it – this includes Trump, who caved on COVID and has squandered opportunities to flip the narrative, or at least call the Left’s narrative into hot debate.
Maybe we’ve been naïve, not understanding how truly bent and cynical the Left was willing to be in order to accrue power. Maybe we were distracted with jobs, businesses, our families, communities and football. It probably doesn’t matter how we got here. But we better acknowledge that a) we’re here, b) here is totally fricked, and c) if we don’t get smart, we’re going to get run over and poor.
So what are you going to do? What should (or can) we do collectively?
These questions are problematic when you think about them. The Left has all sorts of institutions and causes organized to channel energy and serve as funnels for money. From universities to unions to Planned Parenthood to the media, their bench is deep and steeped in the religion. Even Wall Street and Corporate America are now woke AF.
What’s on the conservative side for us to get behind. Who can (or even is willing to) carry the arguments we make on the Politics board every day? The Heritage Foundation? Bleh. Cato Institute? No. They’re half the problem.
And beyond the vehicle(s), what’s the strategy? I have some ideas and I’m sure you do too, but whatever it is, it better be tantamount to LSU hiring Joe Brady. It’s got to be bold. It’s going to be hard.
What's the plan?
The Left has thought/strategized circles around us, and let’s be big boys and girls about it – this includes Trump, who caved on COVID and has squandered opportunities to flip the narrative, or at least call the Left’s narrative into hot debate.
Maybe we’ve been naïve, not understanding how truly bent and cynical the Left was willing to be in order to accrue power. Maybe we were distracted with jobs, businesses, our families, communities and football. It probably doesn’t matter how we got here. But we better acknowledge that a) we’re here, b) here is totally fricked, and c) if we don’t get smart, we’re going to get run over and poor.
So what are you going to do? What should (or can) we do collectively?
These questions are problematic when you think about them. The Left has all sorts of institutions and causes organized to channel energy and serve as funnels for money. From universities to unions to Planned Parenthood to the media, their bench is deep and steeped in the religion. Even Wall Street and Corporate America are now woke AF.
What’s on the conservative side for us to get behind. Who can (or even is willing to) carry the arguments we make on the Politics board every day? The Heritage Foundation? Bleh. Cato Institute? No. They’re half the problem.
And beyond the vehicle(s), what’s the strategy? I have some ideas and I’m sure you do too, but whatever it is, it better be tantamount to LSU hiring Joe Brady. It’s got to be bold. It’s going to be hard.
What's the plan?
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:33 pm to David_DJS
Good thread.
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:35 pm to David_DJS
While the treasury money machine goes brrrr the judicial appointments need to also be going brrr. Local and state elections matter "now more than ever". If things keep getting worse, and Trump is voted out (fairly or unfairly), the next line in the defense of freedom are the states- the governors.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:36 pm to David_DJS
To be succinct, establish local relationships with those who have influence and power. There is no chance of capturing national institutions/structures, for now.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:37 pm to David_DJS
quote:I don’t know that there is one. It feels like this country’s soul is being lost to the cynics, and has been for decades. It’s reaching astonishing new lows all the time.
What's the plan?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:39 pm to HempHead
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To be succinct, establish local relationships with those who have influence and power. There is no chance of capturing national institutions/structures, for now.
IMO that's waving the white flag. Time for the ground-up, grassroots effort was starting two decades ago. Like it or not, we've ceded a lot of territory.
IMO we need some big hits, and quick. The good news is we have facts on our side rather than squishy "truth" so if the message is crafted well, and the messenger capable, I think it's possible to change the liberal runaway narrative.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:40 pm to David_DJS
You will hear people talk about their guns and ammo.
First and foremost, you should vote and you should never vote for a democrat on any election...national, state, and local. Never.
You can stop supporting the most obnoxious sjw organizations such as the nfl, the nba, certain corporations.
First and foremost, you should vote and you should never vote for a democrat on any election...national, state, and local. Never.
You can stop supporting the most obnoxious sjw organizations such as the nfl, the nba, certain corporations.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:41 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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I don’t know that there is one. It feels like this country’s soul is being lost to the cynics, and has been for decades. It’s reaching astonishing new lows all the time
Maybe true to an extent. Maybe not. But the question is, now what?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:42 pm to David_DJS
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IMO we need some big hits, and quick. The good news is we have facts on our side rather than squishy "truth" so if the message is crafted well, and the messenger capable, I think it's possible to change the liberal runaway narrative.
That would be fantastic, but I really don't see many viable avenues for that, if any. The narrative is firmly controlled by the opposition.
I don't think you can make those kinds of power moves without having a solid foundation, honestly. There isn't anyone around with the kind of push and pull to make it happen.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:42 pm to David_DJS
The first step is NEVER apologizing for a "wrong" you didn't commit.
The second step is to realize that twitter (which only comprises about 10% - 15% of Americans), the media and celebrities AREN'T representative of the US as a whole. Don't allow yourself to be bullied by the people who do not believe in diversity of thought.
Three treat everyone you meet, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. with respect until and unless given a reason not to.
Don't be a coward to have a belief. Now, that doesn't mean running and impressing them upon others unsolicited. But don't apologize for simply having a difference of opinion.
The second step is to realize that twitter (which only comprises about 10% - 15% of Americans), the media and celebrities AREN'T representative of the US as a whole. Don't allow yourself to be bullied by the people who do not believe in diversity of thought.
Three treat everyone you meet, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. with respect until and unless given a reason not to.
Don't be a coward to have a belief. Now, that doesn't mean running and impressing them upon others unsolicited. But don't apologize for simply having a difference of opinion.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:46 pm to David_DJS
I believe what our founding fathers established was an idea. That idea has manifested into what we call the USA. The idea spread around the world and has changed the course of history. It has been under attack since its inception but freedom loving people will never let the idea die. Our country will look different geographically one day, but the idea will never die.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:51 pm to Alt26
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The first step is NEVER apologizing for a "wrong" you didn't commit.
The second step is to realize that twitter (which only comprises about 10% - 15% of Americans), the media and celebrities AREN'T representative of the US as a whole. Don't allow yourself to be bullied by the people who do not believe in diversity of thought.
Three treat everyone you meet, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. with respect until and unless given a reason not to.
Don't be a coward to have a belief. Now, that doesn't mean running and impressing them upon others unsolicited. But don't apologize for simply having a difference of opinion.
Do you think this gets Trump a second term and a Republican congress to work with?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:59 pm to David_DJS
Titanic>>>Iceberg>>>Laws of Physics>>>Calamity.
There are some instances wherein scenarios can not be managed/controlled. Only reacted to, when they occur. Saul Alinsky promoted the revolutionary idea of "engineered collapse", in order to "fundamentally change" an entire System. A System (Constitutional Capitalism/Individual God-given Rights) wherein a "moral and religious people"...self govern. I.e., having little need for Authoritarian governance. Of course, the Ideological Opposition - Secular, Authoritarian Collectivist - believe such to be immoral...for if honest and hard working people are allowed to keep the fruits of their labor as opposed to being forced to share those fruits with civically irresponsible and/or immoral people, then they become a 'Middle Class', living relative affluent lives. And by default, a 'Lower Class' is created; such being those who can not be successful in a competitive society that values their meager contributions toward goods and services, as being without value.
Progressives see the above as innately immoral, selfish, and evil. And they know that there is no solution other than "the barrel of a gun".
To honestly answer the OP...I have no idea. I hang by a thread, having no guarantee of a paycheck. With less of a guarantee as each day passes. But I know that the Progressives...will be aggressive, because their 'moral' conscience bids them to be. They'll kick off the fight, and many of us will simply act on our instincts and according to the options that are available, when the 'ship' hits the 'iceberg'.
Good luck...or God speed.
PS. I do think a Reactionary Movement that knows the above ("barrel of a gun") will soon rise up. And many - having had enough of cities burning, Godly morality being mocked and personal/family loved ones being endangered...they'll draw a line and get behind said 'Movement'. It's coming. Just a matter of time. And we'll all wish today's luxuries were back in hand. Think Joe Burrow and our Tigers, with meat on the grill.
Second Coming. Once we get past it...Paradise on Earth. I believe that. It's all I got.
There are some instances wherein scenarios can not be managed/controlled. Only reacted to, when they occur. Saul Alinsky promoted the revolutionary idea of "engineered collapse", in order to "fundamentally change" an entire System. A System (Constitutional Capitalism/Individual God-given Rights) wherein a "moral and religious people"...self govern. I.e., having little need for Authoritarian governance. Of course, the Ideological Opposition - Secular, Authoritarian Collectivist - believe such to be immoral...for if honest and hard working people are allowed to keep the fruits of their labor as opposed to being forced to share those fruits with civically irresponsible and/or immoral people, then they become a 'Middle Class', living relative affluent lives. And by default, a 'Lower Class' is created; such being those who can not be successful in a competitive society that values their meager contributions toward goods and services, as being without value.
Progressives see the above as innately immoral, selfish, and evil. And they know that there is no solution other than "the barrel of a gun".
To honestly answer the OP...I have no idea. I hang by a thread, having no guarantee of a paycheck. With less of a guarantee as each day passes. But I know that the Progressives...will be aggressive, because their 'moral' conscience bids them to be. They'll kick off the fight, and many of us will simply act on our instincts and according to the options that are available, when the 'ship' hits the 'iceberg'.
Good luck...or God speed.
PS. I do think a Reactionary Movement that knows the above ("barrel of a gun") will soon rise up. And many - having had enough of cities burning, Godly morality being mocked and personal/family loved ones being endangered...they'll draw a line and get behind said 'Movement'. It's coming. Just a matter of time. And we'll all wish today's luxuries were back in hand. Think Joe Burrow and our Tigers, with meat on the grill.
Second Coming. Once we get past it...Paradise on Earth. I believe that. It's all I got.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:10 pm to David_DJS
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Do you think this gets Trump a second term and a Republican congress to work with?
Not capitulating or backing down from the slings and arrows from left/media got Trump elected in the first place
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:15 pm to David_DJS
Go to work, vote my conscience, and continue to take care of my family.
Y'all can all do whatever tf you want
Y'all can all do whatever tf you want
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:19 pm to David_DJS
Economic boycott. Reduce your tax liability to near zero. What you have to buy, buy local. Become a minimalist - only buy what you need.
Other than violent revolution, the only way to kill the beast is starve the beast. You'd have to give up some comforts, and we're far too comfortable, so it won't happen.
Other than violent revolution, the only way to kill the beast is starve the beast. You'd have to give up some comforts, and we're far too comfortable, so it won't happen.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:27 pm to whocares1
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the only way to kill the beast is starve the beast. You'd have to give up some comforts, and we're far too comfortable, so it won't happen.
I think this is an important piece of a plan.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:30 pm to David_DJS
Bring back legalized gun duals
Lethal force defense of property laws
Major tort reform
Lethal force defense of property laws
Major tort reform
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:41 pm to tagatose
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Bring back legalized gun duals
I have to admit this one has never crossed my mind.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:43 pm to David_DJS
Move to Alaska
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