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So, Um, Voter Fraud Anyone?
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:37 pm
Another Project Veritas undercover video. On the video the following exchange took place in Texas:
Gateway Pundit
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PV undercover journalist asks a Texas election official if her “DREAMer” boyfriend can vote as long as he is registered to vote and has a driver’s license.
“Yeah okay” says the election official.
“If he has his ID that’s all he needs. If he’s registered,” the election official says of a potential DACA voter.
“Right. It doesn’t matter that he’s not a citizen?” PV journalist asks, adding, “I saw some mess on the internet that it’s not legal for him to vote because…”
“No. Don’t pay any attention to that. Bring him up here,” the Texas election official said.
Gateway Pundit
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:49 pm to AUstar
But there was a study that said it’s non existent. It has to be true, cause it’s like a study and shite
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:49 pm to AUstar
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“If he has his ID that’s all he needs. If he’s registered,” the election official says of a potential DACA voter.
Yes, because in Texas (per the State's website):
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You may register to vote any time after you have reached the age of 17 years and 10 months so that your registration can be processed in time for an election falling on or after you turn 18 years old.
Other voter eligibility requirements include:
You must be a citizen of the United States.
You must reside in the county where you are registering.
You must NOT be a convicted felon who is currently incarcerated, on parole, or probation.*
You must NOT have been declared mentally incompetent in a court of law.
So if they are registered to vote, the staffer is doing their JOB. It was the DMV's job to check this person's eligibility.
Congrats on an undercover video of a person doing their job. Can they do an undercover expose on McDonald's employees asking people... GASP... if they want fries with their order??????
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:57 pm to AUstar
Stories like this continue to cuckold our dear Democrat BamaAtl
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:58 pm to skrayper
Did you miss the "must be a citizen" part?
What do you think the job of an election official is?
What do you think the job of an election official is?
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:21 pm to Choctaw
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Did you miss the "must be a citizen" part?
What do you think the job of an election official is?
To look at the documents provided and compare them to the rolls provided by the state.
An election official's method of verifying the person's eligibility to vote is to check the voter registration rolls and compare that to their government issued ID. They are not the ones registering them to vote.
As Texas does not have polling place voter registration, that means this person already registered to vote. That means the person operates under the reasonable assumption that the State of Texas has already confirmed the person's citizenship.
No, the burden of determining US citizenship does not fall upon the person working the polling area in a state that does not have polling place registration.
It is the job of the DMV to confirm their citizenship. That is Texas state law. This person would be guilty of voter suppression of they turned away a person who was registered to vote and possessed a government-issued ID.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:27 pm to skrayper
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An election official's method of verifying the person's eligibility to vote is to check the voter registration rolls and compare that to their government issued ID. They are not the ones registering them to vote.
unless that person straight up tells you that they are not a citizen
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:27 pm to skrayper
Why do you hate America? Go live in Europe.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:40 pm to skrayper
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skrayper
You fricking idiot, they’re telling this bitch TO HER FACE that he’s not a US citizen and she’s telling her it’s ok if he votes. If that’s doing her job then our voting system is frickED
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:42 pm to AUstar
"Officer, I have a dead body in my trunk."
Officer: "That's none of my business, move along."
Officer: "That's none of my business, move along."
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:43 pm to Choctaw
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unless that person straight up tells you that they are not a citizen
It doesn't matter. The person can tell you that they're a citizen of Mars; if they are listed on the registered voter rolls, and they have a valid ID, you let them vote.
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What are the Responsibilities of an Election Clerk?
Working under the supervision of the judge, student election clerks may assist with the following duties:
Organizing the polling place before the polls open.
Ensuring that qualified voters are permitted to vote.
Checking in and processing voters.
Distributing ballots to registered voters.
Providing instructions and assistance to voters.
Answering voters’ questions.
Explaining the use of the voting equipment.
Maintaining order in the polling place on Election Day.
Obtaining results after the polls are closed and closing the polling place.
Two key points for this role as dictated by the State of Texas:
1. Ensuring that qualified voters are eligible to vote means ensuring that they are on the registered voters list.
2. Distributing ballots to registered voters means that if the name is on the rolls and they have an ID, they give them a ballot.
It doesn't matter what you WANT their job to be, this IS their job. It doesn't matter if I want them to ensure the citizenry of every person who walks through the door, that is NOT their responsibility.
They have two things they do:
1. Check the ID
2. Verify that against the rolls
Different states can add additional steps, like in VA where you have to know your full name and address without your card. I was asked that before I could vote. No big deal.
If Texas passes a law tomorrow stating that a poll volunteer can bypass the voter registration rolls and ask for proof of citizenship, so be it. Until that occurs, however, you're asking them to break the law.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:44 pm to skrayper
quote:
It is the job of the DMV to confirm their citizenship. That is Texas state law. This person would be guilty of voter suppression of they turned away a person who was registered to vote and possessed a government-issued ID.
There is so much wrong with this IMO. I know the DMV's role is established and has been forever. But do we want the DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES being the end all on citizenship checks? There needs to be an entirely new department for voting IMO or something better than the horrid fricking DMV being in charge of it.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:45 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
quote:
"Officer, I have a dead body in my trunk."
Officer: "That's none of my business, move along."
More accurately:
"Officer, I have a dead body in my trunk."
Stripper: "I'm not a cop, this is a costume."
Michael Jackson: "It's cool, I got his bones at auction."
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:47 pm to skrayper
i bet you would change your tune if your favorite democratic politician had lost.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:51 pm to skrayper
quote:
1. Ensuring that qualified voters are eligible to vote means ensuring that they are on the registered voters list.
Point blank told the guy wasn't a qualified voter
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:53 pm to AUstar
Could've sworn I just read a thread by some sky screaming regressive that voter fraud doesnt occur.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:14 pm to Choctaw
quote:Well that's not what happened, since the actor was asking about her made-up bf. And the worker eve questioned the story, and told that actor that her BF may be lying to her and isn't actually registered.
unless that person straight up tells you that they are not a citizen
Then the actor said that her BF as a DACA recipient, which now requires the worker to have an understanding of an immigration program and the legal standing and eligibility of citizenship.
What bothers me though is that this woman appeared to be attempting to her job as best she could. She did not appear to be intentionally allowing, let alone encouraging, anyone to break a law. And instead she was trying to help a person who was lying to her, and trying to get her to APPEAR to allow a person to break the law so they could publish a secret video and accuse her of something nefarious.
Veritas videos are pretty sketchy, but this is the first time I've seen one where I've been outright disgusted by their tactics and who they used them on. It's despicable.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:21 pm to AUstar
So Gateway Pundit, one of the fakest fiction sites, says O’Keefe’s group (the deceptive editors) have a video of an allegedly hypothetical discussion about someone who doesn’t exist voting, when no voting actually took place, and we are supposed to be outraged?
Come on.
Come on.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:25 pm to jchamil
quote:No. They lied to her, and told her that a made up person was a DACA recipient which she may or may not have known what that meant, who had proper identification and was registered to vote.
Point blank told the guy wasn't a qualified voter
There are laws in place, and those designated with enforcing them, to ensure that registered voters are citizens. It is their sole authority to make such determinations. Therefore, not only doesn't she have the authority, she doesn't have the reasonable ability to enforce because it would require her to make a determination without anyway to verify the claim.
Do you want random poll workers to have the ability to make a legal determination outside of their authority, based on unverifiable claims, and withhold a person from exercising a constitutional right?
What if some family member who disagrees with your political views, follow you to the polls and tell the poll workers you're an illegal immigrant? Do we expect the poll worker to then have the power to disallow you from voting?
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