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Since everyone here thinks covid numbers are inflated...
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:12 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:12 am
idiots
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 10:40 pm
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:14 am to AndyJ
We'll need two years of clinical testing to prove that...amirite?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:14 am to AndyJ
Hospitals are being paid by the government for their Covid patients. Of course they’re going to inflate the numbers at a time they’re hemorrhaging money.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:16 am to AndyJ
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Let me do you the service of informing you that we in the medical field are being told there is a false negative rate of 30% on the tests. So there is a lot of “your test is negative, but you still have it” going on. This should help your case more
Just because you're a janitor at a hospital doesn't mean you're in the medical field
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:17 am to AndyJ
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we in the medical field
That's pretty broad.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:18 am to AndyJ
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everyone here
Trite
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:20 am to AndyJ
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false negative rate of 30% on the tests.
So count all 30% as negative?
Count all 30% as positive?
County half and half?
Flip a coin?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:21 am to AndyJ
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we in the medical field
Stocking the vending machines at the hospital doesn’t count bro
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:32 am to AndyJ
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Let me do you the service of informing you that we in the medical field are being told there is a false negative rate of 30% on the tests. So there is a lot of “your test is negative, but you still have it” going on. This should help your case more
I believe most of us think the people with the virus are exponentially more than being reported, but the deaths from it are being inflated based off of a couple of reasons. One, not everyone is being tested, and we constantly hear there are plenty asymptomatic people out there. Second, the criteria for labeling someone as dying from CV19 seems to be flawed. If a person with a heart condition has a heart attack while driving and plows into a tree was it the heart attack or the tree that killed them?
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:33 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:48 am to AndyJ
Sounds, how do you say, anecdotal.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:48 am to AndyJ
So... 2 wrongs make it right. Got it.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:49 am to Tridentds
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So... 2 wrongs make it right. Got it.
Well, if you have 2 wrongs that are 180 degree different from each other and you divide by zero...
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:50 am to AndyJ
my gf's department is laying off employees left and right, she's a radiologist, figured you wouldn't be laying off people in the medical field right now huh, Andy?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:52 am to AndyJ
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Let me do you the service of informing you that we in the medical field are being told there is a false negative rate of 30% on the tests. So there is a lot of “your test is negative, but you still have it” going on. This should help your case more
I don't completely denounce this because it is at least plausible although I'd suggest it was probably more inaccurate when we first started testing and is probably way lower than 30% now....BUT I'd need some hard data to look at to throw my hat in either direction.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:53 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:52 am to AndyJ
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there is a false negative rate of 30% on the tests.
great- so it’s mortality rate is likely 30% less?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:52 am to AndyJ
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we in the medical field are being told there is a false negative rate of 30% on the tests
As another who works in medical field; show me your data.
ETA: I am well versed in false positives, negatives, and positive predictive values as well as ROC so please do not try to BS me. Thanks.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:00 am to AndyJ
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One preprint paper relying on biological specimens from 213 patients in China suggested a false-negative rate as high as 30 percent.
OK your 30% came out of China....so that means there a 100% chance it is bullshite.
Try again.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:08 am to LSU316
Lol
With all of the rapid testing that is coming out, we are being told there is a higher false negative rate. It makes sense.
With all of the rapid testing that is coming out, we are being told there is a higher false negative rate. It makes sense.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:10 am to AndyJ
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we in the medical field are being told there is a false negative rate of 30% on the tests.
Wouldn't it stand to reason that there would also be a high rate of false positives, meaning the test isn't that reliable.
BTW - I don't think the numbers in the U. S. are inflated, except for the deaths. For healthy individuals, it seems this thing is about as troublesome as a gnat on a pig's arse. It preys on the weakest among us. We should rename it "Darwin Virus."
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