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Lou Pai
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Since abortion is a legislative issue again, interesting situation for lib Catholics

Without any tangible, concrete evidence, I've long assumed most of the clergy probably votes democrat. I went to Catholic schools K-12, and while there wasn't overt propaganda, it was abundantly clear to me that outside of abortion and gay marriage, the American Catholic clergy was largely left-leaning on topics like welfare, MidEast wars, immigration, death penalty, gun rights, etc. I also have a relative in this group that is a lifelong Democrat voter so I guess that influences me as well. I would think, in their heads, the supposed finality of Roe v Wade largely "absolved" them of having to think about abortion as an issue when voting and they could instead turn their attention to voting muh feelings on other issues.

That all said, imagine being a hardcore Catholic now (either a very devout layperson or a clergy member), and a dependable, bleeding-heart Democrat voter living in a place like Massachusetts. Are you going to continue to vote for the leftists like Elizabeth Warren, who is in effect a priestess of Moloch and wants to federalize Roe v Wade in Congress? Or even at the stage legislature level. How can that person in good conscience vote democrat there? How can the lives of the unborn not trump every other issue?

LA could be another interesting example. JBE obviously held himself out as a pro-life Democrat, and from what I understand, so does Luke Mixon. So that removes the issue for the group I'm talking about. But what about the Mary Landrieus of the world?

Maybe I'm overthinking all this, but figured this could make things interesting in more Catholic areas.
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Good point.

Without the cover of Roe, they are going to have to be more transparent.


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Wally Sparks
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I would think, in their heads, the supposed finality of Roe v Wade largely "absolved" them of having to think about abortion as an issue when voting and they could instead turn their attention to voting muh feelings on other issues.


This guy's "seamless garment" B.S. gave cover to Dem Catholic politicians on abortion for years:



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JasonMason
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MidEast wars,


What is the left's position on middle east wars?
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Maybe I'm overthinking all this, but figured this could make things interesting in more Catholic areas.

You mean in more LIBERAL Catholic areas?

My priest is a gun-toting, South Louisiana baw. I doubt he, or most of our congregation, fits what you are describing.

The same could be said for the Parish/parish where I grew up.


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CauleyHog
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You are either a pro life Catholic or an ex Catholic.


Lou Pai
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It has obviously reversed entirely.


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Mid Iowa Tiger
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Without any tangible, concrete evidence, I've long assumed most of the clergy probably votes democrat.


I think there is a huge difference between the bulk of say 50+ catholic priests and under 50. Many of the older, right after vatican II were educated in seminaries that were at best compromised by hard core leftist communists and at worst outright ran by them.

That has changed starting 20 or years ago and the younger crop of priests (say those who entered the seminary post gay sex scandals) are much more traditional and much more conservative in their views.

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American Catholic clergy was largely left-leaning on topics like welfare, MidEast wars, immigration, death penalty, gun rights, etc.


Welfare they will align with "more is better" to an extent but again the younger ones not so much.

MidEast wars? There is no more anti-war left. There really isn't. Trump was probably the most anti-war president in 50 years and there was no credit given to him for that.



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OchoDedos
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Maybe I'm overthinking all this, but figured this could make things interesting in more Catholic areas

That's a blanket statement not entirely true of the majority of most Catholic Parishioners, particularly in Red State America.



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I've long assumed most of the clergy probably votes democrat


No need to assume. They have.

The love the Dems giving mad $$$$ for welfare and open borders to keep their parishes operating. They are willing to trade dead babies for this.


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Lou Pai
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Outside of LA, hard to think of many red states with a lot of Catholics


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Maybe one day people will realize that the Catholic church doesn't give one shite about anything other than money and power.

If they actually cared about Biblical teachings then there would have never been massive child abuse cover-ups and anyone pro-choice wouldn't be allowed to step foot through the doors.


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Without any tangible, concrete evidence, I've long assumed most of the clergy probably votes democrat.


I don’t know a single Catholic who is a democrat


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CrimsonJazz
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Catholics were a heavily marginalized group in this country for a very long time. The Democrat party was THE de facto party for Catholics, Jews, blacks, hispanics, etc. However, the DNC wasn't the fricked-up bunch they are now and people have started to respond. Remember, there are many people alive today who vote Democrat because George Wallace was a Democrat and they still hold to his views. It will take some time for Catholic Democrats to die off, but eventually it will happen and all ties will finally be mercifully severed.


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TDsngumbo
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My priest is a gun-toting, South Louisiana baw. I doubt he, or most of our congregation, fits what you are describing.

My priest was too but now he’s no longer a priest


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FlyingTiger1955
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The ex-Catholics are Episcopalians. It’s more of a social gathering for people who like to brag about how much money and things they have. You also don’t have the concept of sin to worry about.


CrimsonJazz
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The ex-Catholics are Episcopalians.


All the pageantry and only half the guilt. I've met ONE Episcopalian in my entire life who isn't a demented progressive.


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willymeaux
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Outside of LA, hard to think of many red states with a lot of Catholics



Florida?

Texas?


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Matthew 23:9-11
King James Version
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

but pope and priests are exempted
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