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Shouldn’t transies surgically alter their brains instead of their genitals?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:22 am
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:22 am
Seems a much better fix than all this hormoning and sculpting.
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Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:23 am to Meauxjeaux
Thinking further, maybe Elon’s nueralink can do it. Like, drop a chip in, suddenly I think I’ma boy and have the penis to prove it.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:24 am to Meauxjeaux
Treating problem vs treating symptoms
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:25 am to Meauxjeaux
It seems obvious doesn't it?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:39 am to Meauxjeaux
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 9:43 am
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:25 am to Smeg
Normalizing a mentally ill persons delusion is not helpful to them. It’s actually more hurtful. These people should be treated with Psychiatric medicine not paraded around as heroes.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:37 am to Meauxjeaux
"Conversion therapy" has been vilified and even outlawed in many corners of the nation.
It's a shame too, because it is the most obvious and least intrusive way to help these people and surgery is not needed.
Humans are moist robots and can be programed and re-programed.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:39 am to Meauxjeaux
Favorite line from As Good As It Gets.
Woman fan to male author: How do you write women so well?
Male author: I think of a man…and I take away reason and accountability.
Woman fan to male author: How do you write women so well?
Male author: I think of a man…and I take away reason and accountability.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:41 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:
Seems a much better fix than all this hormoning and sculpting.
I've no doubt something along those lines will be the preferred procedure in 20 years. All this hole-digging and construction work is very inefficient, and too many customers seem unhappy with the product.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:43 am to Meauxjeaux
I think you could be on to something. How about sending them to school like we did the American Indians to change their way of thinking?
But then again, the trans are aready submissive to gooooooooberment.
But then again, the trans are aready submissive to gooooooooberment.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:51 am to Meauxjeaux
In most cases, people who suffer from actual diagnosed gender dysphoria have distinct, measurable differences in brain activity versus cisgender (normal) people. There are no conclusive answers as of yet, but the research does tend to indicate that these differences arise from hormonal differences in utero.
In other words, their brains developed differently than “normal“ brains, before they were ever born, PROBABLY due to unusual hormonal activity in the pregnant woman.
If there were a way to reverse those neurological differences surgically (or even medically), I am certain that a significant number of patients would choose that option. But that surgical technique simply does not exist at this time.
Unfortunately, medical science at this point in time simply does not provide a “perfect“ solution for these folks. We are left with trying to find the least-bad means by which to allow them to have a reasonably-normal life. It will never be “perfect.” Sometimes the least-bad option will involve surgery, sometimes it will not.
In my view, there are really two sets of villains in this scenario. First, those who insist that reassignment surgery can never be the best available solution, given the current level of medical science. But, second (and of equal culpability), are those who insist that reassignment surgery will always be the best available solution.
In other words, their brains developed differently than “normal“ brains, before they were ever born, PROBABLY due to unusual hormonal activity in the pregnant woman.
If there were a way to reverse those neurological differences surgically (or even medically), I am certain that a significant number of patients would choose that option. But that surgical technique simply does not exist at this time.
Unfortunately, medical science at this point in time simply does not provide a “perfect“ solution for these folks. We are left with trying to find the least-bad means by which to allow them to have a reasonably-normal life. It will never be “perfect.” Sometimes the least-bad option will involve surgery, sometimes it will not.
In my view, there are really two sets of villains in this scenario. First, those who insist that reassignment surgery can never be the best available solution, given the current level of medical science. But, second (and of equal culpability), are those who insist that reassignment surgery will always be the best available solution.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 11:26 am
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:13 am to Meauxjeaux
Sadly neuralink is more of a pipe dream than reality. Foolish of Elon to think he can figure out neural networks when neurologists and neuroscientists have been working on it for 40+ years
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:14 am to Drizzt
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Woman fan to male author: How do you write women so well?
Male author: I think of a man…and I take away reason and accountability.
I listen to a TERF podcast (Isabella Malbin), and she had a really interesting guest on the other day. Guest was a woman who'd tried being a man and taken testosterone for a while, but came to her senses.
Her description of what it was like taking testosterone was interesting. Said something like, "there was suddenly this rational part of me and it was completely separate from my emotions."
Never occurred to me that women didn't experience that at all, and would find it surprising. I thought that was just, you know... normal human brain function, and that any difference was one of degree. Nope.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:16 am to USMEagles
That IS interesting.
Without trying to be too stereo typical, do you have a link or any additional information which would help find this interview?
The following search query did NOT find it:
Without trying to be too stereo typical, do you have a link or any additional information which would help find this interview?
The following search query did NOT find it:
quote:
podcast Isabella Malbin transgender testosterone rational emotion
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 11:23 am
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:23 am to AggieHank86
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gender dysmorphia
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due to unusual hormonal activity in the pregnant woman.
quote:
In my view, there are really two sets of villains in this scenario.
First, those who insist that reassignment surgery can never be the best available solution, given the current level of medical science.
But, second (and of equal culpability), are those who insist that reassignment surgery will always be the best available solution.
What about the "villainy" of politically-motivated misdiagnoses?
What about the "villainy" of irreversible Peen/Breast removal -- just because someone is temporarily confused and psychologically gaslit about their actual gender?
You also mention "Dysmorphia" (obsessive unhappiness with body flaws), but NOT "Dysphoria." (delusion / confusion over gender identity)...
The Elephant in the Room here...
Why are you ignoring and dimissing what should be THE very first possible solution before irreversibly lopping off body parts?: PSYCHOLOGICAL COUNSELING
Secondly, IF "hormones" was a facilitator in gender confusion AT BIRTH, perhaps hormone therapy that re-normalizes and balances the ORIGINAL BIOLOGICAL GENDER is a co-solution to counseling?
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 11:25 am
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:26 am to Liberator
quote:You are correct. I was referencing the latter. Fixed.
You also mention "Dysmorphia" (obsessive unhappiness with body flaws), but NOT "Dysphoria." (delusion / confusion over gender identity)...
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:27 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The following search query did NOT find it
I think this is the episode in question:
Apple Podcasts
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:29 am to Liberator
quote:I am not. That was inherent in my suggestion that surgical reassignment should not always be the default answer.
Why are you ignoring and dimissing what should be THE very first possible solution before irreversibly lopping off body parts?: PSYCHOLOGICAL COUNSELING
quote:Perhaps. Again, that is exactly what I said.
Secondly, IF "hormones" was a facilitator in gender confusion AT BIRTH, perhaps hormone therapy that re-normalizes and balances the ORIGINAL BIOLOGICAL GENDER is a co-solution to counseling?
With all due respect, the fact that you choose to overlook exactly what I said, in favor of your own political biases… tends to indicate that you pretty clearly fall into one of the two categories that I described.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:29 am to Smeg
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:30 am to USMEagles
quote:thanks. It says that it is an hour and eight minutes long. Is the entire episode worth devoting that much time to it?
think this is the episode in question:
If the whole thing is informative, I would be interested to listen to it. Not sure I want to spend more than an hour listening for one soundbite though. Your thoughts?
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