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Should LA help struggling cities and towns?

Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:52 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:52 am
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The state’s own fiscal troubles have gotten in the way of hiring specialists to swoop into financially troubled towns, push aside local elected officials and unilaterally fix the municipality’s finances.

Courts, at the request of state government, appoint financial administrators and give them despotic powers to hire and fire at will, set fees, reorganize departments and do whatever needs to be done to balance budgets and return fiscal order to local governments. But state legislators haven’t put any money into the account that pays these financial whizzes, instead have chosen to spend the capital elsewhere during the past decade or so the state has struggled with its own budget problem


I feel like this is, yet another, example of the heavy handedness / central control from the Capitol in Baton Rouge screwing things up.

Rather than the state having to come in and fix these financial problems, the state needs to pull back some of their control of local governments. Allow local governments more leeway in setting tax rates, let them control more of their own spending, etc.

Also, while I am the first person to believe in the right of self-governance, that only is if the city/town/village can afford it. Maybe some of these tiny municipalities need to just go under, and become unincorporated parts of the parish they are located in. If they can't cut spending / raise enough money to actually run things, then they shouldn't do that. I'm sure these small tiny places cause an overall increase in government expenses, than if they were just unincorporated.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120165 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:55 am to
frick no.

Just look at Clinton.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101267 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:56 am to
No. If anything, we should start looking to more municipal consolidation.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66997 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:58 am to
If the towns weren't taxed so heavily at the state level, they could levee more taxes at the local level to support themselves.

If the state's tax code and permitting structure wasn't so draconian and anti-business, then these small town economies would not be struggling so mightily.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:58 am to
No. Why does Louisiana, a state of not even 5 million people, need 64 parishes? Need to merge of some of them.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94823 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:59 am to
Pass.

The problems with these municipalities still come down to shitty elected officials, so fixing things will only let them loot everything again.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:01 am to
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If the towns weren't taxed so heavily at the state level, they could levee more taxes at the local level to support themselves.


Yup. Another reason we really need to de-centralize. You could probably take a significant chunk of stuff the state currently does, and give it to the locals and tell them to handle it (and pay for it).
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:01 am to
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No. Why does Louisiana, a state of not even 5 million people, need 64 parishes? Need to merge of some of them.


We have 64 parishes for much the same reason we have way too many 4 year colleges.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34145 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:02 am to
Many in those struggling towns may start leaving the state.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94823 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:05 am to
A lot of the northeastern parishes such as West Carroll, East Carroll, Catahoula, Madison, Caldwell, Tensas, etc should definitely be combined in some form or fashion.

Those are some of the lowest population parishes in the state and are fairly contiguous.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:05 am to
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We have 64 parishes for much the same reason we have way too many 4 year colleges.


I love that topic. You have one great state university and then a bunch of others for everyone else who can't go there.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101267 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:07 am to
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We have 64 parishes for much the same reason we have way too many 4 year colleges.


No, one is not really a function of the other at all.

Although, there can be (should be?) reasonable discussions about changing the framework of both at the present time.

Georgia has 159 counties and a much more functional higher education framework.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:09 am to
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A lot of the northeastern parishes such as West Carroll, East Carroll, Catahoula, Madison, Caldwell, Tensas, etc should definitely be combined in some form or fashion.

Those are some of the lowest population parishes in the state and are fairly contiguous.


Some of these parishes have like 10,000-15,000 people in them, some are less.

Georgia also has way too many counties.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134840 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:09 am to
If the people of the town don't lift a finger to fix their own stuff, why should I have to pay for it?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94823 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:10 am to
Georgia also has a shite ton more people than Louisiana.

LA - 31st largest state by area, 25th by population (population density of 93.6 people per square mile.

Georgia - 24th largest state by area, 8th by population (population density of 165 people per square mile)
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101267 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:11 am to
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Georgia also has a shite ton more people than Louisiana.

LA - 31st largest state by area, 25th by population (population density of 93.6 people per square mile.

Georgia - 24th largest state by area, 8th by population (population density of 165 people per square mile)


And neither's parish/county framework is a function of either state's current situation or population makeup.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:12 am to
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No, one is not really a function of the other at all.


They both are part of the rationale we have in this state that every little part of the state should have their own piece of the pie. We don't need 64 parishes and we don't need all those 4 year colleges... but try to mention consolidating just one and everyone comes out of the woodwork discussing how the world will stop spinning if we do that.

Also, some of these poor less populated parishes are no doubt majority black, so we will get to hear from the race card as well... just like with the colleges.

Not to mention, with both these colleges and some parishes, the main purpose of them is to provide jobs to locals.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30162 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:13 am to
Let the state provide for the people only those things listed in the state's constitution.

Otherwise, the cities/towns need to run themselves properly, or tough shite.
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