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TulaneFan
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SCOTUS does deserve some credit

They stepped up to the plate and struck down unconstitutional blanket vax mandates… and ruled in favor of the sanctity of human life, overturning decades of federal overreach (Roe v Wade)

That doesn’t make up for them bitching out on a stolen election by refusing to hear the Texas case, but lately it’s been some good wins for the American people

So far the Supreme Court has been the biggest obstacle for Biden’s regime to break the country even more than they already have



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I hope they start tearing down the Commerce Clause next.


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Not a fan of Mitch, but blocking Merrick Garland was impactful. I will give credit where it is due to Mitch.


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I hope they start tearing down the Commerce Clause next.

They should also overturn gay marriage. Send that decision back to the states where it belongs
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I hope they start tearing down the Commerce Clause next.


Ain't going to happen for practical, not theoretical, reasons. ICC discussions are on the level of big L Libertarian discussions.

Like, I somewhat mean this sincerely, fricking with the US ICC power could create literal threats to every other nation on earth and risk the world entering a severe economic depression. Wars could start over that.


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They should also overturn gay marriage.

They will have to overrule Loving and that's severely unlikely (and would ensure DEM court packing)


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That doesn’t make up for them bitching out on a stolen election
Not nearly!


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Lou Pai
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Not a fan of Mitch, but blocking Merrick Garland was impactful. I will give credit where it is due to Mitch.


He's not infallible but he has cemented his legacy as one of the greatest American legislators of all time.


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TrueTiger
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Like, I somewhat mean this sincerely, fricking with the US ICC power could create literal threats to every other nation on earth and risk the world entering a severe economic depression. Wars could start over that.


Not disagreeing. I just happen to think that freedom is worth that risk.


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TulaneFan
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They will have to overrule Loving and that's severely unlikely (and would ensure DEM court packing)

A couple of questions

Why would this impact the Dems decision to pack the courts? They seem to do whatever the frick they want so if they intend on packing the courts wouldn’t they just do it anyway?

Wouldn’t this require 2/3rds of states to approve? Which brings me back to question 1 if they intended on packing the courts with 350 liberals they would have already done this.


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SlowFlowPro
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They seem to do whatever the frick they want so if they intend on packing the courts wouldn’t they just do it anyway?

I don't think they will have the support to do it, even after the decision yesterday.

You push to invalidate Loving? Popular support to pack the court will skyrocket.

Then you get super-Roe and all these gains are lost.

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Wouldn’t this require 2/3rds of states to approve?

Nope. Just an act of congress signed by the President. The number of justices is set by legislation, not the consitution.


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So here’s a question: yes it belongs in the states. What determines if it’s up to a vote of the people or up to the legislature elected (supposedly) by the people?


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coolpapaboze
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and ruled in favor of the sanctity of human life
They didn't do this. They ruled that abortion is a states rights issue and should be decided by the elected representatives of individual states.


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TrueTiger
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Popular support to pack the court will skyrocket.


Court packing would make the court into another branch of the legislature.

We would then be without question in a post Constitutional America.
The U.S. experiment would be over as sure as the rise of Caesar marked the end of the Republic.


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Court packing would make the court into another branch of the legislature.

This is why I keep telling people to be very careful in the fights you pick.

This is Grasserly's quote I posted in the Harry Reid thread (after Reid enacted the nuclear option), but it applies here, too:

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“But if there is one thing which will always be true, it is this: Majorities are fickle. Majorities are fleeting. Here today, gone tomorrow. That is a lesson that, sadly, most of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle haven’t learned for the simple reason that they have never served a single day in the minority. So the majority has chosen to take us down this path. The silver lining is that there will come a day when roles are reversed.”


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This is Grasserly's quote I posted in the Harry Reid thread (after Reid enacted the nuclear option), but it applies here, too:

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“But if there is one thing which will always be true, it is this: Majorities are fickle. Majorities are fleeting. Here today, gone tomorrow. That is a lesson that, sadly, most of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle haven’t learned for the simple reason that they have never served a single day in the minority. So the majority has chosen to take us down this path. The silver lining is that there will come a day when roles are reversed.”



That is such a diabolical bad arse political quote. Mob boss level


SlowFlowPro
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Yeah but it's a warning for anyone and an argument for moderation, which is not the political desires of many in today's polarized country.

The sad part is that this polarization is 100% manufactured by a form of intelligentsia and echo chambering spilling out to the masses.


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Rex Feral
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Trump coming through again.


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bluestem75
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They should also overturn gay marriage


That one is more complicated. There’s potential to prohibit free movement by gay married couples.

If they live in one state that allows them to marry and then move to a state that doesn’t (say because of job transfer or to take care of an elderly parent), does that nullify their marriage?

Abortion, being a medical procedure, is a singular event. Marriage, on the other hand, is a state of being.

The solution should not be “let them marry in the other state and have the new state honor the marriage” because gay couples will go to those states to marry and then return, creating de-facto national gay marriage.


SlowFlowPro
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That one is more complicated. There’s potential to prohibit free movement by gay married couples.

If they live in one state that allows them to marry and then move to a state that doesn’t (say because of job transfer or to take care of an elderly parent), does that nullify their marriage?

Abortion, being a medical procedure, is a singular event. Marriage, on the other hand, is a state of being.

Also marriage is literally a state-issued license, which changes the scrutiny on prohibiting people from enjoying the state-provided benefits.


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