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Schools are hard to protect: a shooting my soph year.

Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:39 pm
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:39 pm

My sophomore year, a young man was shot in the head in my high school.


1 on Map: Shooter walked though south bus lot and entered C Hall.
2 on Map: Shooter knew that victim would be in H Hall for class...shot in occipital lobe w a .22 pistol (survived and witnesses said he held pistol sideways with elbow bent-rap video style)
3 on Map: Ran to woods...captured

We were not allowed to leave our classrooms for almost three hours. Largest school in our state....kids urinating in cups and out the window, in my typing class. While not in my class, more than one girl just had to pee in her pants.

This is not easy to protect a school with a one mile long perimeter. Not sure how you do that.


This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:41 pm to
Every entrance MUST be securely locked, and the school MUST have an armed deputy.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30047 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:43 pm to
got that....but shooter comes in between bells and all doors unlocked on these big campuses. 1400 kids walking between buildings 7 times a day.

not sure about schools everywhere else, but these large multi-building campuses have unlocked doors and 2 doors per building.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:44 pm to
The solution is rough men ready to do violence on behalf of the children in the school.
Posted by dstarsntigers
Member since Apr 2022
796 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:45 pm to
So give the coaches guns?
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
4439 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:46 pm to
home schooling is likely the way forward.

especially with AR/VR 'metaverse' stuff. in 10 years time, just watch.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
13211 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:49 pm to
Fences, cameras, a security officer and at least two armed deputies or other private security officers would go a long way. Let the one security officer monitor the cameras and the others go where needed on campus based on what the man watching the cameras says would be a start. If there’s money for Ukraine, there’s money for this.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

So give the coaches guns?


I don’t believe that is the answer, as I can envision many scenarios where this creates more problems than it solves.

All schools should have one or more armed individuals trained on mass shooter events on campus at all times. That person or one of those people checks everyone who walks into the one open entrance for weapons during the school day. Off duty cops, ex-military, etc. are most ideal. Maybe even create a specific profession dedicated solely to this purpose in Americas school districts. Would be a much better use of taxpayer money than most of the shite we pay for anyway.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16949 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

Every entrance MUST be securely locked,

Fire hazard
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:53 pm to
The solution is to:

1) put the mentally ill away

2) put the thugs in jail for ever

3) offenders should hang in town square
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12078 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

home schooling is likely the way forward.

I’ve been saying for twenty years that we need to get rid of these large school campuses for anything below high school. Just put a nice little one room “community” classroom in each neighborhood and let the teacher handle the 1-2 dozen kids until they’re ready for high school. Make the teacher part of the neighborhood too - this would facilitate more involvement from the parents.

Then separate the older kids by what they’re likely to do in life - trade school for those who want that, technical/business classes for those who will be entry level office workers or assistants or the like, and then true college prep classes for those destined for that lot in life.

Divorce schools from athletics and let their be local/regional athletic clubs for the kids to join.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16448 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Fire hazard


Security doors open from the inside, so no fire hazard.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13313 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:58 pm to
Not really. Abolish gun free zones, which violate the constitutional rights of all Americans, and creates a safe zone for the demented and evil to have their way. Allow teachers who wish to carry to do so, protecting themselves and the children.

There’s a reason you don’t ever hear about evil or demented people shooting up police stations or gun ranges. Gun free zones simply put a target on the backs of our children.
Posted by Coppertop
Member since Feb 2021
550 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:03 pm to
4) Allow teachers to CC if they want to and pass some type of training
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30047 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

teachers to CC
some do today and no one knows it. at minimum a little LCP to get you away from danger.
Posted by rudy99
Member since Apr 2018
358 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:16 pm to
Like every damn public gathering- weddings, mega church, malls. Dims think a gun free sticker solves it then they exploit it when it doesn’t.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6461 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:17 pm to
These school shootings are shocking and rightly give us reason to evaluate security and to make sure we are doing all we can to protect kids.

That being said, we have 77 million students enrolled in 130k schools in this country.

Do we really want our schools set up like prisons for what are thankfully still extremely rare events?

Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30047 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

Do we really want our schools set up like prisons for what are thankfully still extremely rare events?
who knows. and prisons can't even keep drugs and weapons out.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
10565 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:40 am to
How bout instead of sexual perversion classes there are crisis intervention classes. Maybe the men are required to take firearm training and CC training. Make it a culture within the school that instead of fatasses asleep between classes there are men who are armed and trained to frick up any freak who shows up with the thought of hurting people. I guarantee the males in our school would have blown that motherfukers head off if he even leveled a weapon on our campus. This gun control narrative that is crippling our society is why this is happening
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67635 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:15 am to
teacher's unions are already hostile to parents and systemically racist

and the physical security danger keeps growing

Seems like we should re-think failing government schools.
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