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San Jacinto and Texas Nationalism. Thoughts for us all

Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:00 am
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1434 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:00 am
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“We view ourselves on the eve of battle. We are nerved for the contest, and must conquer or perish. It is vain to look for present aid: none is at hand. We must now act or abandon all hope! Rally to the standard, and be no longer the scoff of mercenary tongues! Be men, be free men, that your children may bless their father’s name!” –Sam Houston, before the Battle of San Jacinto.


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It is April, 1836: the fledgling government of the Republic of Texas struggles to remain in existence. In overfilled wagons, on horseback, and on foot, Texian women and children leave behind their homesteads and villages to escape Santa Anna’s approaching army. Marauders plunder the vacated homes and villages, and advancing Mexican troops burn what remains to the ground.

After losing hundreds of men and suffering five crucial defeats to their cause, Sam Houston’s untrained band of ragtag patriots is retreating eastwards. Some of them abandon, concerned about their unprotected wives and children.

The fate of nations lies with Houston’s men— men with empty stomachs, holes in their shoes, and a worrying lack of ammunition and training.

On April 21, Santa Anna’s troops and Houston’s men finally face off at San Jacinto. The Texians are again outnumbered; to make life more interesting, they have retreated so far that they are backed up to two bayous with no possibility of escape should things end badly (as is very, very possible). Yet with shouts of “Remember the Alamo!” and “Remember Goliad!” the Texians win.

179 years have passed since this unexpected and improbable victory, the triumph that won Texas its independence—an elusive prize for which many gave their lives.

Modern Texians read about, delight in, and reenact this victory. To some it may seem like washed-up high school athletes reminiscing over their “glory days,” but nothing could be further from the reality of this state’s potential for independence.

Texas’ days as a nation are not necessarily over: we can rise among the nations once more, but only if Texians decide that they want to be free and will again sacrifice something to obtain that freedom.

“We must now act or abandon all hope!”

Throughout the 1830s, Mexico’s government steadily worsened until at last a lawless caudillaje emerged, a brutal military serving as the state. Texas was not singled out for militaristic rule; Mexico was also governed by garrisons of troops. The difference between Mexico and its northern neighbor was in the reaction to the bout of tyranny.

For the past century, the United States’ federal government has grown ever larger and more intrusive. Its absorption of private sector resources and its violations of individual rights are not prevented by the constitution designed to restrict it, neither are they halted by the efforts of freedom-loving representatives. At best, they are merely delayed or lessened.

Texas’ situation in 1836 is in many ways similar to the one it faces now: a much-changed government threatens it with new regulations, legislations, and infringements upon natural rights, and no ordinary efforts are stopping the onslaught.

Somewhat like the 1820s and 1830s Mexican government, the American system has changed and is finding new, creative ways to eliminate freedom and individual choice—in healthcare, in retirement savings, in self-defense, in education, in transportation, in communication. This time the solution to the plague of totalitarianism is to break away from the system entirely.

The eve of battle

Many of Sam Houston’s men paid for Texas independence with their lives. The war (short as it may seem in retrospect) scattered families and ended in a great deal of physical destruction.

This time, Texians fight the battle for independence not with rifles but instead with ideas. The sacrifices for supporters in our day are not as life-defining or dangerous, but the stakes are just as high.

Bystanders often think that independence is an optimist’s pipe dream. A number of 1836 spectators shared that conclusion, but fortunately were not right. Counting the costs matters little and counting the odds matters less, but calculating the stakes matters a great deal: liberty is on the line.

We find ourselves on the eve of a battle that is every bit as defining as the one that took place at San Jacinto 179 years ago today. Will you rally to the standard?

Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78893 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:05 am to
I <3 my state. The re-enactment scene is apparently pretty big here.

Santa Anna was a bad arse until he got complacent and corrupt. It was downhill for him pretty much every day after that. Think he died in exile somewhere in Mehico.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13862 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:06 am to
If Texas were to become a country again with the same principles that the U.S. was actually founded upon, how long would it take for our population to double from the influx of patriots seeking to be free?
Posted by Baylor Kyle
Big D
Member since Apr 2021
261 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:18 am to
Texas is undefeated in war. Enough said.
This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 10:19 am
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19911 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:21 am to
“Texians”.

I go back and forth between the idea that this has connotations of revolutionary independence that I like, but I also like the simplicity and rhythm of “Texan”.

Either way, I’m thankful that I am a native-born one. Will come in handy when the new passports are issued.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12060 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:35 am to
Bunch of baws from Kentucky and Tennessee fought there and at the Alamo. We may be fighting along side of y'all again.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18579 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:50 am to
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If Texas were to become a country again with the same principles that the U.S. was actually founded upon, how long would it take for our population to double from the influx of patriots seeking to be free?



A long time because we would begin with strict immigration policies. Like Austria/Germany type tough. No open borders at all. Want to move to the Republic of Texas? Welcome, tell us how you are going to become Texan and contribute meaningfully to our way of life.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78893 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:54 am to
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tell us how you are going to become Texan and contribute meaningfully to our way of life.


Kind of wish that is how it should've been for every state. Tons of freeloaders everywhere.
Posted by Baylor Kyle
Big D
Member since Apr 2021
261 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:57 am to
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Bunch of baws from Kentucky and Tennessee fought there and at the Alamo. We may be fighting along side of y'all again.


Much love. Texas would not be Texas without Kentucky and Tennessee.
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7145 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 11:02 am to
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If Texas were to become a country again with the same principles that the U.S. was actually founded upon, how long would it take for our population to double from the influx of patriots seeking to be free?



Once that happens, no one is allowed in unless they hold some credentials that matter to the good of the republic!
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9352 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 11:09 am to
One of the most regulated states in the USA. Emissions standards on par with CA, NY and Ontario. When I moved there in the 80's I couldn't believe the amount of regs for bars and restaurants.

The idea that Texans are so free is bullshiite.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 11:16 am to
Our state senators and Lt. Gov. don't trust citizens to walk down the street openly carrying a weapon. They're statists who are siding with the jackbooted cops.

There's way too much romanticizing of Texas on this board. It's a great place but the days when people minded their own business and you could have a gun rack in your truck without second thought are deader than Santa Anna.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13604 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 11:25 am to
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They're statists who are siding with the jackbooted cops.

There's way too much romanticizing of Texas
texas would be more free is useful idiots like yourself didn’t pollute this place with authoritarian leftist ideas.

The guy shits in Texas for being statist while being a huge statist apologist. Stupid fool...
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67635 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 11:32 am to
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no one is allowed in unless they hold some credentials that matter to the good of the republic!


immigration can be a positive thing if you only take in the best and brightest
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 11:32 am to
I think public health measures are important to keep a pandemic from getting out of hand, that's about the only statism I can think you may be referencing.

I'm very critical of Trump and the modern Republican Party so I realize I'm a heretic. It is what it is. Enjoy your rolling blackouts this summer, my fellow Texan (who appears to be a move-in).
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30275 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 11:39 am to
If Texas goes, I'm going with them, and back to Horseshoe Bay.

The population of Texas the Nation will skyrocket.

It's much easier to salvage a state than an entire nation, even if both with about 50% saboteurs.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22391 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 11:48 am to
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Texan


A native or resident of Texas.

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Texians


A Texas National.


That being said....Texas has already allowed itself to be destroyed by its cities. A state cannot have a strong statewide, conservative identity when it has big cities littered throughout its state.

This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 11:51 am
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