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Ruminations on Conspiracy Theories

Posted on 3/6/21 at 9:35 am
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 9:35 am
I had dinner and many cocktails with a HS friend last night. His sister is full on devoted to Q. I gotta be honest, I didn’t follow it - but always thought (and still think) it was harmless.

He put it perfectly. “I believe the election was stolen. I believe that there are some powerful people who are pedophiles and some are maybe blackmailed bc of it. I just don’t think they are cooking the kids afterwards.” I fundamentally agree.

Q people apparently believe in some stuff that is believable. Lizard people and space aliens being involved in a pedo ring or Trump being secretly the President or coded shite being sent out on Mickey Mouse clocks (wasn’t that a thing one time) - not so much.

I hate that they have been made bogeymen - bc while a little nutty; it seems harmless to me. Armed insurrection with no guns. damn Democrats.
This post was edited on 3/6/21 at 9:36 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 9:40 am to
Q was convincing because it seemed to come from an intel or military insider, certainly seemed tied to the White House based on some posts/pictures, and was really just a storyteller about what was going on behind the scenes politically. The trafficking stuff was only 10 or 20% of Q posts, I would say. But, of course, the MSM mischaracterizes it. It's funny that it gets much more coverage now than before Biden took office. The "movement" essentially died an inauguration day, with the exception of a few diehards (greatawakening.win).
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 9:44 am to
All it did was give me hope that someone, anyone, would care about a fair election.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 9:44 am to
It was a very valuable lesson in cult/groupthink.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 9:45 am to
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Q was convincing because it seemed to come from an intel or military insider


Plus the posts eventually came from 8Kun which was running through a Dept of Defense server. Hard to explain that one away.
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 9:48 am to
1. Where we go one, we go all, is as cool a slogan as “don’t tread on me.”

2. It is a mark of how good leftists are at propaganda that a harmless association of people comprised of housewives and grandmothers - united by common principles of patriotism, defense of the defenseless and truth seeking - has somehow been perverted by leftists into domestic terrorism.

I have yet to see a single truthful example of any Q person being violent. Not a one.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
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Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:00 am to
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Armed insurrection with no guns


A pre-planned insurrection by gun-loving terrorists, at that.

That sticks in my craw when the MSM continues to label it as an "armed insurrection".
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:10 am to
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Q people apparently believe in some stuff that is believable.


I never really dug into the Q stuff much nor did I ridicule them at every opportunity, so I don’t really have a dog in the fight. I will say this: one very standard response to damaging rumors is not to deny them, but to launch your own disinformation campaign that takes the true rumors into crazy land so that the average person never give any of it any credence.

True: a lot of very powerful people went to pedo island where they screwed underage boys and girls
Crazyland: a lot of very powerful went to pedo island where they screwed underage boys and girls and ate baby livers and made sacrifices to the lizard god

If you successfully get the crazy stuff attached to the real stuff the average person dismisses all of it.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:11 am to
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came from 8Kun which was running through a Dept of Defense server

No it wasn't.

You just believe that bc the chans told you to believe it.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:53 am to
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No it wasn't.

You just believe that bc the chans told you to believe it.


I don’t know why it would matter. There are a lot of people in the military and a lot of civilians who work on DoD networks. Some of them are complete lunatics, and some of them are dumb as hell.
Posted by mouton
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:00 am to
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If you successfully get the crazy stuff attached to the real stuff the average person dismisses all of it.


The problem is a LOT of people on the righ believe the crazy stuff. An example: Ben Shapiro posted an article on Facebook about Mitt Romney falling and getting a black eye. Thousands of response. I would guess at least half were about him now being a member of the black eye club/Illuminati/ a satanic pedo cult. Same anytime an article about celebrities like Tom Hanks are posted on a conservative page. Every other comment is about them going to Epstein island, being satanic baby eaters , adrenochrome etc. These beliefs are not a rarity.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:04 am to
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It was a very valuable lesson in cult/groupthink.


Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15396 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:04 am to
I agree with you.

I never even followed Q - so I honestly don’t know what portion of the stuff dealt with lizard people or not. It sucks that they have been all lumped in with the lizard people believers.

Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:09 am to
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Ailsa


You are one of the main people on this site that believe this stupi shite. You posted a meme just yesterday with a picture of Tom Hanks with a black eye. As an actual fricking adult how do you defend this stupidity?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:17 am to
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very valuable lesson in cult/groupthink.


don't need no lessons on that front.

The DEMs have been a cult for at least 30 years, with the beginnings with LBJ in 63.

They cast off any attempts at hiding their cultist devotion when Obama-da-half-black-man was sanctified as grand poohbah in 08. Since then they have been having public celebrations with their mob enforcers on the streets/universities, and their protectors in the deep state, and their publicists in the media, and their hi-tech/entertainment funders.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:21 am to
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Q was convincing because it seemed to come from an intel or military insider


That was exactly why it was suspect IMO. I always maintained that Q was initially conceived as a Deep State misinformation campaign. The first allegiance of any true “insider” is to the Deep State above any other concern. The rest are useful tools.
This post was edited on 3/6/21 at 11:23 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:27 am to
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I never really dug into the Q stuff much nor did I ridicule them at every opportunity, so I don’t really have a dog in the fight.


Agreed. Anyone who questions “official” narratives are at least asking the right questions. The followers of Q — at least based on my exposure to them here — are good and decent citizens.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:31 am to
Oh, but the things the media labels as conspiracy theories:

This on the same day that Rod Rosenstein admits he and McCabe conspired to record Trump to get him ousted from office.

The last sentence is gaslighting at a level that can only be achieved by the Lizard People given the deadly gamma rays required to create it.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:37 am to
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The majority of these same journalists have yet to retract the wholly fabricated claims that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election.



The genuine kooks are those who regurgitate the lies that are fed to us daily by the MSM outlets who feign righteous indignation over the fact that many of Trump’s followers believe the election was stolen.




Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:40 am to
Yeah the media is behind this narrative that lizard people conspiracy theorists are a dime a dozen. Which is simply yet another propaganda campaign to paint as many folks on the right, especially Trump supporters, as dangerous conspiracy theorists. And it just an extreme exaggeration. Plus, the left's got its own conspiracy theories as well. Trump was supposed to literally be an asset and spy of Putin, just like in the spy movies.
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