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Retired ATF agent wants Ar15s as NFA items

Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:15 pm
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5339 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:15 pm
Big surprise a retired ATF agent wants to says Ar15s should be regulated like machine guns.

AR15s regulates like Machine guns

Little gem here.

quote:

"To me, if you want to have a weapon of war, the same gun that was issued to me as a member of [the] ATF SWAT team, it makes sense that you would have to pass a background check, the gun would have to be in your name, and there would be a picture and fingerprints on file," he continued. 


Looks like some agency wants a $200 check on 10+ million owners.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76445 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:17 pm to
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the same gun that was issued to me as a member of [the] ATF SWAT team


ATF swat doesn't have 3 round burst weapons?

Did they not learn anything from Waco?
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
5295 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:18 pm to
I am unaware of which wars ATF Swat participated in
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37383 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:21 pm to
Um... aren't those ALL already required?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80060 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

To me, if you want to have a weapon of war, the same gun that was issued to me as a member of [the] ATF SWAT team, it makes sense that you would have to pass a background check, the gun would have to be in your name, and there would be a picture and fingerprints on file,"


They are also issued side arms too.... Guess those are weapons of war too
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9116 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:24 pm to
It's a good thing his opinion is meaningless
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167027 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:24 pm to
What about the Ruger Mini-14 that shoots the same caliber, RoF, velocity, etc as an AR15? Oh wait...it doesn't look scary so no need for regulation.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5339 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:26 pm to
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Did they not learn anything from Waco?


This is the same organization that confiscated airsoft guns and said with a straight face, how some one could use them to cause trouble.

ATF confiscates airsoft toy guns


quote:

I am unaware of which wars ATF Swat participated in


It's funny how federal law enforcement act like they're in a war and need everything under the sun. Funny thing is the same people cops have to deal with will be the same ones a citizen will face in a self defensive situation.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22836 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:27 pm to
These people are idiots. It’s just another semi automatic rifle. It doesn’t have burst fire or automatic. It’s range isn’t anything special. It’s not a great weapon and there are much much better choices. Why do they insist on singling this one out? Because the military uses a version of it.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167027 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:28 pm to
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They are also issued side arms too.... Guess those are weapons of war too




Say bye bye to your 1911s
Posted by MsHoghunter
Member since Oct 2017
2405 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:29 pm to
Flintlock muskets are also weapons of war.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45786 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:31 pm to
In common use...
Posted by TigerMikeAtl
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
1974 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:33 pm to
All I have to say is that I carried around a few weapons in my trunk that would make the AR-15 look impotent when I was with the Bureau. Tried the link but wouldn't work. Would love to know this honchos name. He may be one of the weinnies that I had to babysit.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24601 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:34 pm to
The most powerful weapon of war is a functional brain. Unfortunately, too many people lack this weapon. Especially those that want to overregulate and restrict responsible firearm owners.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:37 pm to
It took me 9 months to get my suppressor approved by the ATF. frick those people.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Guess those are weapons of war too


the hatchet in your garage was once a weapon of war too
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57010 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

if you want to have a weapon of war, the same gun that was issued to me as a member of [the] ATF SWAT team,
Tiresome stupidity right there.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5339 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Tried the link but wouldn't work.


I tried it again and it didn't work. It was a article posted in The Hill. I'll try to fix it.

ATF

Should work.

Guys name was
quote:

David Chipman, a retired Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) agent, 

This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 7:44 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:42 pm to
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Tiresome stupidity right there.



This is the slippery slope. My Glock is a weapon of war according to this retarded logic.

The line in the sand is the AR-15.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
48587 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:47 pm to
This ATF choad, and cops in general, don't like the idea a civilian might have just as good of weaponry as they do. They want an advantage.

Frankly, some of the rifles (with optics) my friends own would make them either drool or piss their pants.
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